Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 03, 2023, 03:23:25 PM

Quote from: junder on December 03, 2023, 07:03:39 AM

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 02, 2023, 07:39:26 AM

Quote from: junder on December 02, 2023, 02:51:25 AM

With different principles with their own beliefs they do it on their own accord, there is no coercion, so if they are addicted it is also because of their own actions that make them become addicted to gambling, it is unethical if they blame others. They also want success, but they combine these two things and this is wrong, they want success but they gamble. It doesn't sound good like this. I don't think they would be successful with gambling if they were just players. The majority of them choose gambling as a shortcut to success but it doesn't work and it hurts them. So I think they should gamble reasonably don't expect more from slot gambling.

Well, let's just say that they are unlucky, because if we talk about being successful through gambling, it is absolutely possible, very many lucky gamblers have made good money from gambling, atleast, I have one guy here in my area who is a millionaire today, he made his first tens of million in our local currency through gambling, and today, he has built businesses and fetch him alot of money on daily basis.
He is still gambling but no longer depend on it for money since he's businesses brings him far more profit on daily basis, but then, the fact remains that, he became what he is today through gambling.

So, yeah, gambling can indeed make someone successful, but then, the gambler have to be lucky.

It's rare for someone to be successful with gambling, if like you said that maybe he's a person who has strong luck in gambling so that he gets a big win until he can start a business that produces, of course this is a good thing, even so I don't recommend this as motivation because in gambling which only relies on luck so I don't think "he just succeeded by gambling, I can't", because luck will only give victory, so it's better to gamble reasonably, don't go overboard with gambling because you are motivated by someone. It could be that other people are successful at gambling but we are successful at work and vice versa.

Well, I said what I said, and shared the gambling experience (in terms of finding success in gambling) of someone I know, I never meant it to act or serve as a source of motivation to other gamblers to start gambling irresponsibly, even the guy I talked about never gambled irresponsibly as far as I know, he was just purely lucky.

Gambling irresponsibly will only lead to loses, and even more loses, because even when you manage to win, you probably will still invest the whole winning back into gambling and lose it all back, this is what irresponsibly gambling does to a gambler, aside from other vices of misfortunes that also accompanies irresponsible gambling.

So, for me personally, I believe a responsible gambler stand a better chance of hitting success when it comes to gambling, and saying that it's rare to find a gambler who is successful, that is a lie bud, there are alot of successful gamblers out there, the fact that it has not worked out for you or for me is not a reason to believe otherwise.

Yes, the best gambling or no matter how hard they try to gamble will not produce if they do not have luck in gambling, obviously they will get more losses than wins, Behind gambling there is a bookie who plays the role of host. Also the bookie has arranged everything to be able to make a profit, the bookie also established gambling to make a profit not to make a loss by giving winnings to all gamblers easily. When players who have spent a lot of money on gambling at that time the bookie laughs satisfied because he has succeeded in making someone addicted to gambling, but it should also be remembered that they are addicted not because of the bookie, but because of themselves who cannot control and limit the gambling they do, if only they can limit their gambling activities maybe they will not experience addiction which causes them to spend a lot of money gambling.

The number of gamblers or the lack of gamblers who are successful because of gambling I don't mind it, but I suggest not making it a motivation, because gambling is not a place to find talent for success, gambling is only entertainment in the form of paid games.

Quote from: Hamphser on December 03, 2023, 07:59:13 PM

Quote from: junder on December 03, 2023, 07:03:39 AM

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 02, 2023, 07:39:26 AM

Well, let's just say that they are unlucky, because if we talk about being successful through gambling, it is absolutely possible, very many lucky gamblers have made good money from gambling, atleast, I have one guy here in my area who is a millionaire today, he made his first tens of million in our local currency through gambling, and today, he has built businesses and fetch him alot of money on daily basis.
He is still gambling but no longer depend on it for money since he's businesses brings him far more profit on daily basis, but then, the fact remains that, he became what he is today through gambling.

So, yeah, gambling can indeed make someone successful, but then, the gambler have to be lucky.

It's rare for someone to be successful with gambling, if like you said that maybe he's a person who has strong luck in gambling so that he gets a big win until he can start a business that produces, of course this is a good thing, even so I don't recommend this as motivation because in gambling which only relies on luck so I don't think "he just succeeded by gambling, I can't", because luck will only give victory, so it's better to gamble reasonably, don't go overboard with gambling because you are motivated by someone. It could be that other people are successful at gambling but we are successful at work and vice versa.

You should'nt really make yourself that thinking about getting successful with gambling because its never been that possible or could really be that so simple because if you do have this kind of mindset
you would eventually be ended up on having that kind of addiction because you do really keep yourself pushing on trying out to achieve such condition on which we know that it wont really be that so simple.Gambling could really mess up someone's life if you won't really be that careful in regarding with your decisions on which gambling should really just that for fun and not for income making.

As for those parades showing those kind of realistic scenarios then it's a good way of showing about those results if they won't really be that careful towards gambling and the actions they are making.Showing in public does might open someone's eye and make them realized but it's true that there would be people who would be curious.

I agree with you, not to have the mindset of being able to succeed with gambling, because this kind of mindset will only kill us in the future. It could be addicted to gambling because they expect more from gambling, even if they say "someone can succeed by gambling, I can't" heyy bro, keep in mind everyone's luck is different, don't force to succeed by gambling by spending a lot of money you have. it's better to start a business or investment if you really want to succeed, if to succeed by gambling the chances are very slim maybe even impossible because gambling is not a game that will easily give victory, because the bookie will not give victory stupidly.

As you said, gambling is just for fun, not for money. That's right, not being able to succeed by gambling. Because gambling can mess up a person's life like you said, and indeed that is the reality of many gamblers today, where those who are addicted to gambling have many problems, problems with their own mindset are obvious, not to mention their daily lives which of course there will always be thoughts of wanting to continue gambling because of the pursuit of victory, not to mention they think about how to pay off debts for those who are addicted to gambling and run out of capital they can take out loans to return to gambling. The point is that gambling can make a person change drastically, not improve the situation.