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Well, it's like what have been discussed here about 1xbet in my country, many still trust and believe in this casino, they have a lot of customers over here, and personally, I have never come across anyone complaining about being scammed or losing money unduly on the casino.
Infant, i myself have played on this casino and have withdrawn some multiple times without issues, but then, I still honestly will bot vouch for them since they could be selectively scamming some customers on low key.

So yeah, any gambler who is not confident enough should avoid both 1xbit and 1xbet, they are indeed under the same company.

You are completely right and I agree with you, I also have played multiple times on 1xbet, their online version actually, since I don't like patronizing offline casinos or betting agents, and multiple times I've won, I've always been able to withdraw without any issue, I haven't even done a kyc verification and they(1xbet) have never also asked me to do so before I did be able to withdraw, so on my side, they seem trustable, but like what you said that, you can't vouch for them since it's possible that they might be scamming people on low key, I think it's pretty the same for me, I also have never come across anyone offline complaining about being scammed by 1xbet, but I still can not advice new players to chose 1xbet since there are several other good and well trusted casinos around to chose from.

So very well, may be my opinion would have been different if I weren't so sure that the same parent company own 1xbit and 1xbet, so yeah, if 1xbet is scam, there is every chance that 1xbet might be engaging in scam to, if not now, possibly later in the future, so they should be avoided too.

I think that 1xbet changed their strategy in somewhere 2019-20. When someone would type 1xbet in Google, their result would be that 1xbet is scam company, scam bookmaker and etc but in 2019-20 1xbet started to become very active on Russian market. They opened tons of blackjack tables in Evolution gaming and put tons of money in marketing to attract Russian players. It seems 1xbet understood that honesty is the best policy, even if you want to make money.
By the way their past actions tells a lot about them. That's why I don't trust them and their sister companies. They created bet-b2b platform and created tons of scam casinos.

wow that must be a great strategy to fool people , changing the result in google search ? sad if this is really the truth then and also this same reason why there are so many victims from outside bitcointalk that comes inside just to claim their funds being scammed .
so this is how they truly wanted to victimized people and still pretending to be different site?
what i was wondering is how many sites being connected to 1xbet/1xbit that still existing .

Well, as much as we don't know the sites out there that are connected to 1xbet, as well as 1xbit, I personally believe that this is the more reason why we all should steer clear from unknown casinos, most especially, unknown casinos outside this forum.

For me personally, ever since I got into this forum and started playing on online casinos, I done well to avoid casinos that do not have a presence on this forum, except for 1xbet which is a casino I've personally known and played on on several occasions before I started playing on online casinos on this forum.

So, in order not to fall victim to puppet casinos belonging to the same family or 1xbit and 1xbet, avoid playing on casinos that are not known out there, and also do not have a presence on this forum.