Quote from: NotATether on Today at 08:29:36 AM

Quote from: theymos on December 04, 2023, 10:30:01 PM

** Existing threads will be locked and archived.

Archiving should *prevent* them from being able from unlocking the topic again, but they should not be moved to the Archival board. Then the first few pages will be full of old mixer ANNs which I don't think is the behavior you intended.

I still think it's an exaggeration to lock and archive mixers' ANN threads, as well as ban their official accounts. OK, ban on advertising, giving prizes, giveaways, paid signatures... Censoring all mixer links... Isn't that enough?
Why couldn't they have their own ANN for direct and public communication with users, without the possibility of leaving clickable links or advertising in any way? Officials can only write in the ANN thread. For example, blindmixer announced in advance the closure of their service and invited all users to withdraw coins from there. That's fair and will save someone's money. Aren't these kinds of posts enough proof that they need to be given a public thread on the forum?
Also, the same rule applies to seized mixers as it does to all banned users on the forum. There is no going back, not under any other name.

This is a way to avoid the omission presented by PrivacyG, related to recognising which mixer is following KYC requirements.
For example, from January 1, all mixers can add a rule in their TOS that they reserve the right to request KYC from users. However in reality it will never do it (like most casinos). Isn't that in line with the new rules?

The final form of the new rule would be fulfilled, mixers are prohibited from advertising, but discussion about mixer services is allowed. Mixer owners and their users will be able to resolve eventual issues with full community oversight. Bitcointalk would take down the "censored" sign.

The more I think about this solution, the better it seems to me, and I would not apply it only to mixers. I would apply the same to all proven scam services that have enough negative feedback. For example, the well-known case of 1xbit. Censor all links to their site, ban them from any kind of promotion, and their representatives can only write in their own ANN and Scam accusations related to their cases.

btw. I haven't recognized the reason why Sinbad was immediately archived, while some previously seized/closed are still open. Like Blender, Chipmixer, Whirlwind... What's the difference here?

Quote from: Rikafip on December 05, 2023, 03:58:42 PM

Quote from: JollyGood on December 04, 2023, 08:32:23 PM

It is time for all members to get over this announcement, it is not the end of the world just because mixers will be banned.

Yes many members will no longer be earning as much if they manage to get enrolled on other signature campaigns but there is nothing more to discuss here. This forum is controlled by theymos and he has made a decision that we have to adhere to if we want to remain members.

I hope theymos locks this thread and pins it Meta board. Let us all move on.

No one denies that he can do what he wants, but since it looks like that he is williing to adjust the mixer ban rule slightly, I don't think that its pointless to discuss it.

Today we should be silent about the banning of mixers, in a while the ban on instant NO-KYC exchanges will come, we are not talking about that either, after that, we will not talk about kicking out gambling. When it's our turn to throw out something important to me or JollyGood or Rikafip, there will be no one left to discuss.