Quote from: Westinhome on December 08, 2023, 08:19:01 PM

Quote from: Furious 7 on December 08, 2023, 05:25:55 PM

I dont think facing Dortmund can be used as a benchmark because after all Dortmund are one of the best clubs at the moment so the draw is actually very good especially with the dominance that Leverkusen showed in this match.
Leverkusen will still be very good if Xabi still shows his slick performance in bringing the boys to a good consistency it's just that for me now even if Leverkusen are like that but this will not make a difference because they will only trouble Bayern for Champions but not to replace the hegemony that Bayern is doing.
Now its all about how they keep the scheme and the players and of course a few more players to keep the rotation going well in a busy schedule could be a very good thing.

Dortmund was the best club agreed,but you should not underestimate the other clubs.Because every club had their own potential in the game.Every club will had the star players who help them to fight at the important matches.The rotation of the players also the important one for the club to chase the goal,because it was the strategy of the Leverkusen to keep their position in the top of the table.Today match for Hoffenheim and VfL was seems to the game of Hoffenheim today.Because they made of 2 goals in the mean time and had their top position in the game.So most probably it was Hoffenheim will win today.

Yes, I very much agree with what you say, under no circumstances should any team be underestimated, because each team has its own way of getting ahead, it's just that in Bunldiesga we talk more about teams like Bayern and Leverkusen because they are the that they have given the most to talk about, obviously also about Dortmund, because I have seen that Dortmund has had a slight improvement, at least the intense match they had with Leverkusen, well things went quite well, because Leverkusen in He never rested for a moment from his incessant attack, and even to defend you have to have good losses, because at all times he must be careful not to make fouls and make a pentli even so Dortmund was a team that never gave up, because when it could, it did. There were some very strong counterattacks, so much so that almost at the end of the game he almost scored the goal, that would have been a disaster for a Leverkusen that is very motivated and that Xabi Alonsos still has a lot to offer.

The Bundesliga is another of my favorite leagues, because it is the kind of football that keeps you in suspense because anything can happen, partly because we always talk almost about the most teams because they are the ones that differ from the others, but based on In what each of them can achieve, it is really possible, Union Berlin is Another of the teams that are very good, and that can make a difference, but in reality things can be so decisive it is because we We are always at the forefront of knowing the best things about our teams, therefore we are doing everything possible because when they are such big teams in a single league, the others are going to stay with the same level, so I could make this Budnesliga will not be like the previous one, where everyone was watching Bayern Munich suffer, hoping that they would not finish first, but sometimes things do not go as desired and that is why they have seen things like that.

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on December 10, 2023, 10:22:38 PM

If they really want to win the league then the winning mentality is the basic they need and try to be consistent in order to capitalise on every mistake or drop of point by the mighty bayern munich, who was really disappointing yesterday and got trash by Frankfurt 5 goals to 1 but is usually like this for them every season when they get a shocking defeat but i hope Xabi and his men will not slack off because of this

Unfortunately Xabi Alonso team did not profit much from Bayern Munich humiliating defeat and got only one point from their game against Stuttgart. Bayer Leverkusen were playing away vs a team that is doing pretty good this season in Bundesliga. They were pushing and trying to score and Leverkusen tried too but their opponent were concentrated to not lose home.
This round in Bundesliga is crazy with a lot of unexpected results. Even Dortmund lost home vs Leipzig which increased the gap to 4 points.

Dortmund is the roller coaster team of the Bundesliga. I still struggle to understand how they were able to pass the Champions League group and get into the next round early. But I highly doubt that they will be able to pass two more rounds in the Champions Leagues they are just too weak and unstable. I am sure they will soon be punished for that. 11 points behind Leverkusen, only 1 win in the last 5 games... Is Terzic going to be sacked soon?

Well, Leverkusen is a team that has everything to win the Bundesliga, not only because Xabi is there but because they see the spirit of winning, I don't know, and in the way they play , how they do everything, I like it, personally Sometimes Bayern does things well , but you can't do much because they are always pitted against teams that always give them a fight , last season it was Dortmund, now there is Leverkusen and apparently things can get very interesting, For that reason I say, you cannot claim victory until the games are over , because a Bayern Munich that Even I say can be quite insistent and of course we think that the German teams are very tough, very strong, That's because we still don't know what Union Berlin can look like , which for me is a team that has a lot of potential and care, because the Bundesliga can give many Surprises, it's something we should Expect, nothing more than the example of the 2nd Bundelsiga gives a lot what to talk about.

Now things can always be quite exciting when it comes to how to place bets, since Bayern is not very good to be given as a sure bet, now I think that everything will happen in the direction of Leverkusen because everyone is exciting with Leverkusen, therefore things can be quite Good , exciting, but the way they are happening is the best, the truth is I have always been satisfied with this Bundesliga because to me, unlike many , it does not seem to me that it has ever been boring Some say that it is boring because Bayern always wins, but if Bayern is the one that plays the most then that is why they win, I have always thought that things can be quite good, now this is an imprionant of what is happening, very Little did they imagine that Leverkusen would make such a big turn for the Bundesliga, no one expected such good moves for the Team.

Bayern Munich suffer injury blow ahead of Manchester United Champions League fixture

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Bayern Munich will be without Serge Gnabry when they face Manchester United on Tuesday night. The two sides meet at Old Trafford in the final match of their Champions League group stage campaign.

United know they must defeat Bayern to stand any chance of reaching the knockout stages and their qualification hopes could be boosted by the absence of a key attacking player for the opposition.

The 28-year-old suffered a groin strain in his side's 5-1 thrashing at the hands of Eintracht Frankfurt on Saturday and he is now set to spend the next few matches on the sidelines.

Source: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bayern-munich-suffer-injury-blow-28264210