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Oh hey that reminds me....

Jan. 6 rioter who used sovereign citizen 'gobbledygook' at trial is found guilty

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A Jan. 6 rioter who represented himself during a jury trial and advanced sovereign citizen arguments that a federal judge described as "bulls---" and "gobbledygook" was found guilty Tuesday and ordered into government custody.

Taylor James Johnatakis of Washington state was arrested in February 2021 and went to trial starting last week. After just a few hours of deliberation, a jury found Johntakis guilty on Tuesday of felony counts of obstruction of an official proceeding, assaulting officers and civil disorder, as well as four misdemeanor charges.

Judge Royce Lamberth had grown frustrated with Johnatakis during a pretrial conference last week that took place the day before jury selection began. Johnatakis repeatedly said that he wanted to accept "full liability" for the charges. “I would like to come to a resolution,” Johnatakis said, though he refused to plead guilty to the charges.

Johnatakis “could get a lesser sentence" if he "weren’t so hardheaded," Lamberth said.

"I'm telling you the facts of life. You don't believe me," Lamberth said. "When they find you guilty, you're going to jail."

Once the jury trial began, Johnatakis didn't call any witnesses or put on a defense.

"I have repented all my sins," Johnatakis said during the trial, saying he requested that Lamberth "discharge" the matter — a common phrase from sovereign citizens — since, he said, there was no "controversy" before the court.

During the trial, Johnatakis questioned an FBI agent, Michael Kiley, on whether he accepted Johnatakis' apology for his actions. Kiley responded that it wasn't his place to accept Johnatakis' apology.More than 1,200 people have been charged in connection with the Capitol attack, and more than 400 have received sentences of incarceration. Online "Sedition Hunters" say about 1,000 additional rioters have been identified, but not yet arrested.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/jan-6-rioter-used-sovereign-citizen-gobbledygook-trial-found-guilty-rcna126236

PS: The Kraken lawyer has plead guilty conspiring to intentionally interfere with the performance of election duties. After being charged with actual election fraud and a bunch of other felonies, she agreed to plead guilty to lesser charges and testify for the government in Trumps trial in exchange for 6 years of probation.

That's the Kraken lawyer. The one you mentioned in the very first post of this epic thread.

Quote from: BADecker on May 02, 2021, 10:18:14 PM

Here we go, boys and girls. The Kraken is finally starting to lift off the bottom. Click the links, and go to the site to show the many other links.

SIDNEY POWELL UPDATE

I still do not get what the appeal is to claim one is a sovereign citizen or similar stuff in order to try to get some valid defence at court if it has been proven already that such defense is not effective at all in a court. Not even mentioning the mistake representing oneself is if one does not have any kind of legal experience... To me, it seems this person wanted to emulate Darrell Brooks defense, but again, that was a failed defense.
Maybe he was not aware of the outcome of Darells Brooks trial and thought it was a good idea. I don't know.

Also, Powell got a good deal, in my opinion. Being a lawyer herself, she may be very informed of the consequences of her actions had she not taken a deal.

The sovereign citizen claim is a mistaken attempt to remain in tje private when accosted by the public. Government has authority over the public. They don't have simple authority over the private. They need to get a warrant if they want to enter the private. The warrant if signed by a judge without credible evidence, or a grand jury authorization, can cost a judge his job, and damages.

"Representation" referring to the 'defendant', in any form is something that causes a defendant to essentially lose his case. Why representation at all? If you are present so that you can speak, why would you need to represent yourself? You don't need representing at all.

The judge wants you to represent yourself so that he can allow the prosecution to represent his client. Also, accepting representation essentially says that you are the 'person' listed on the indictment, when the person on the indictment is just a name, but is not you the flesh and blood man or woman. Also, you can be limited by the judge regarding what you speak into the record this way. So, don't represent yourself, or be represented. Simply stand present as a man or woman.

Since standing unrepresented, but present is different than most other trials, - almost everybody stands represented in some way - case law doesn't apply, except for old case law, from times when little representation was used.

Powell is an attorney. If she was smart like Hillary Clinton, she could have gotten off totally free, by not being represented.

How The Federal-Private Speech Police Operated In Election 2020:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/how-federal-private-speech-police-operated-election-2020-radar-highly-attuned-right
During the 2020 election, the Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency (CISA) partnered with the Election Integrity Partnership (EIP), a consortium of groups led by the Stanford Internet Observatory, to track and counter what they considered mis- and dis-information.

EIP surveilled hundreds of millions of social media posts and collected from the cooperating government and non-governmental entities that it calls its "stakeholders" potential violations of social media platforms' policies concerning election speech.

It coordinated its efforts primarily through a digital "ticketing" system. There, one of its as many as 120 analysts or an external partner could highlight a piece of offending social media content, or narrative consisting of many offending posts, by creating a "ticket," and share it with other relevant participants by "tagging" them. Tagged participants could then communicate with each other, in something of a group chat, about the veracity of the flagged content, concerns about its spread, and what actions they might take to combat it.

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Hemingway concluded with a warning: “The censorship-industrial complex better buckle up, because the days of conservatives taking this lying down are over.”
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