Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 09:05:54 AM

Quote from: tumbler.io on December 07, 2023, 09:18:10 PM

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And your #1 choice is "Zengo"? To start, cellphones are terrible for privacy, but worse than that, the website is filled with buzzwords that are typical for BS-sellers that try to convince gullible people. I wouldn't trust them with my funds!
If you want privacy, use Bitcoin Core with Coin Control through Tor. To add security, set it up as watch-only online wallet, and sign offline.
There's no need to trust or even pay third parties for this.

Absolutely.

Zengo looks shady IMO.

I am not familiar with "MPC wallets", I will check it later more in details, but I personnaly appreciate a lot to own my private keys.
It looks like they want to propose the exact opposite of the essence of Bitcoin itself:

Quote from: https://zengo.com/mpc-wallet/

TL;DR: “Not your keys, not your coins” has resulted in over $100 billion lost or stolen since the early 2010s. Zengo is the leading MPC wallet that secures over 1 million customers. Check it out, or read below to learn more about MPC wallets.

If you check their "privacy policy": https://zengo.com/privacy-policy/

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PERSONAL INFORMATION WE PROCESS

Initial Account Sign-up Information.
To sign up to and create a user account on the App, we collect your email address.

Facial Image Information.
If you wish to activate your App user account with the back-up feature, as further explained in our Terms, you will need to provide your biometric data of your facial image, which is a mathematical representation of your face. You do not have to provide us with your face image data. However, you will not be able to use this back-up functionality of the App without providing such information.

Support Information.
When you contact us for technical and customer support requests, we collect the information included in your request and in follow-up interactions we have with you.
Inquiry Information.

When you contact us with general inquiries through our online contact forms, chats or otherwise, we collect and process your email address and the information you include in your inquiry.

And if you read the Terms of use: https://zengo.com/terms-of-use/

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Applicable Law and Jurisdiction

These Terms shall be governed solely by the laws of the State of Israel without regard to its conflict of law provisions.

The Tel Aviv District Court shall have sole and exclusive jurisdiction and venue over any claim in connection with the Website or in respect of any matter relating to these Terms. You hereby expressly consent to personal jurisdiction in Israel and expressly waive any right to object to such personal jurisdiction or the non-convenience of such forum.
Notwithstanding the foregoing, we may lodge a claim against you pursuant to the indemnity clause above in any court adjudicating a third party claim against us.

I am not involved in Political stuff in general, I don't care about that. But when it comes to privacy, the State of Israel is not working in user's interests IMO. Which GPDR policy is protecting their users ? Isn't Israel know for building a lot of shady softwares stealing people data?

So, I should : give my email address, potentially a biometric data of my face, and others things (IP, communications etc..) to a company located in a country known to abuse of people's data ; all these things to "protect my BTC" from being lost or stolen?

Maybe I am ignorant, but I will stay with Bitcoin Core, Electrum, Trezor (and Tor). Open-source rules