Quote from: Synchronice on December 15, 2023, 03:30:33 PM

Quote from: mak013 on December 15, 2023, 08:08:10 AM

Quote from: Synchronice on December 14, 2023, 09:23:43 AM

Quote from: mak013 on December 14, 2023, 07:18:00 AM

If we are talking about exchanges, who really works with market - they has no risk with leverage. If the trade loses - they close his position. If the trader wins - they don`t pay their own money - they get it from the market. But if some exchange make fake deals with their own money - you are right and they can lose all their money. But mostly in such situation we here that this exchange is "bankrupt" or, if we are talking about cryptocurrency exchanges - "the hackers steal the money".

Do you remember Terra Luna collapse? Exchanges hold some reserves of every listed coin. These coins were very popular and exchanges lost millions of dollars after its collapse. So, this is not a zero risk business.
Let's talk about leverage too. If trader loses, they close their position as you said it well, that's really risk-free but when trader wins, exchanges have to pay their own money as far as I know because not every trading pair has 3rd party liquidity provider.

It is true, that exchanges has their cryptocurrencies reserves, but Luna scam doesn`t means that exchanges lost their money due to their operations. It is like earthquake - you lose something, but it doesn`t depends on your actions. About leverage - the situation is the same. The exchange wants to maximize their profit with adding trading pairs that they don`t plan to trade on the market. So in this situation they become trader. If they work as they must - they have no risks with their activities.

I am just giving you a LUNA example to prove that it's not as risk free business as it sounds. It's also true that exchanges really make money out of thin air when they take some percentage from your spot, margin and other trading types. Also, exchanges hold the biggest cryptocurrency reserves and you know, once your coins are gone, they are gone forever. They need to invest more in security, marketing and so on.
By the way, to be frank, both, casino and exchanges are great businesses in terms of risks and profits.

Every business has his own risks and expenses. I think that everybody agrees with it. But if we are talking about everyday activities - casino risks their money and the exchange don`t risk, if they works as they must.
And every user has risks except gambling/trading - he has to remember that every casino or exchange can cheat and can become bankrupt or just run away with all users money.