Quote from: icalical on December 17, 2023, 09:48:08 PM

Quote from: junder on December 17, 2023, 07:00:22 AM

It's true that parents should be able to provide comfort to their children, because of course they love their children because of that they provide comfort and pleasure including by spoiling them. wise parents will educate their children well and also by spoiling them. if they are educated harshly it can make them depressed and of course this can have consequences for them later when they grow up.

There are indeed some parents who educate their children harshly, but this harshness is in the sense that they set discipline firmly, the goal is for their own children to be independent and be able to take responsibility for everything well without having to avoid problems that occur. that's what parents who educate their children firmly want.

Eventhough I agree that strict and 'harsh' parents are not fully bad, because I myself have strict and harsh parent and I turns out fine. But more modern parent tend to be less harsh and more permissive toward their children nowadays. Back on my day no one would argue if a parent beat their children once in a while, but now everyone will gone mad when they see a parent land their hand on their children, even for just a quick slap. But to be fair those children who has more modern and permissive parent, actually still grow up to be a responsible adult, maybe because the easier access for information, some of them are even more economically educated than my generation who grew up with strict and harsh parent. They know investmeant early in their youth, and have a good money management.

well that's right, even if parents educate their children firmly or harshly, they are like that not without reason, there must be certain reasons such as wanting their children to become better individuals, take full responsibility for what they do or not throw stones while hiding their hands. that's right, many parents now are not strict in educating their children, they allow all things and spoil their children, such as giving cell phones at an age when they shouldn't have cell phones, unlike the old masters who educated their children firmly so that they become children who are devoted to their parents. There is nothing wrong with spoiling children because it is a parent's obligation too, it's just that parents must be able to spoil their children with limits so as not to make them always dependent on their parents, because I myself was embarrassed when I entered college but still depended on my parents.

This is also about self-awareness, because if children have a good mindset, they will definitely not burden their parents, especially if they are adults, they must be able to be independent because it is also for their own good now and in the future.