Quote from: icopress on December 18, 2023, 02:33:35 PM

The problem is different... I'm too naive, because I took your previous answer as simple curiosity, and the most important thing is that I thought I understood your position .. but now I'm a little confused because I don't quite understand what you're trying to achieve. But I see that you continue to discredit Jambler, repeating your assumptions and conjectures, even though I have already clearly answered you three times. And this despite the fact that dozens of prominent forum participants and the admin also spoke about this (as you wanted).

My friend, I will write to you again that I am not against Jambler or any other "legal" mixer, but I am against this theymos decision. Ignore for a moment the fact that you represent them (in some way) and you will see that there is no discrediting Jambler on my part ^{Will you believe me if I say that I should have been part of the new service, as a Jambler partner}, as far as I can see I am not the only one who talks about Jambler as an exception to this rule. You probably missed that, among other things, for example, I suggested more freedom for all official mixer accounts, and not for them to be PM only.

Go back a few days, the mixer ban rule started with the idea of completely banning any discussion about mixers. Now it has been significantly mitigated, although I think that it is still an excessive dose of censorship. I guess this discussion helped, although I am surprised that we did not hear the opinions or arguments of any active mixer representative here, even though they and their business are most directly affected by this decision.

Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on Today at 12:29:21 PM

Sure, if mixers can be the cause to shut this place down, no matter how sad it might be, forbid them. It just makes little sense from a government's perspective. If I was a government official, I would want such services to run, because they would be central point of failures that I can go after. Forbidding them would push everyone (especially criminals) to decentralized, trustless solutions which I cannot control.

Closing the mixer, as well as turning a blind eye to this problem, will certainly not force criminals to self-report their earnings and pay taxes on it. On the contrary, they will be pushed to create a more sophisticated method for hiding money. Unfortunately, I think instant no-KYC exchangers will be the next to be hit, which will drop some stable and reliable services with them.

Quote from: Igebotz on Today at 10:17:50 AM

The thread is already becoming obsolete; every question about the intended ban have been answered, and theymos has already made his mind and is unwilling to budge. Locking it now will be the most sensible thing to do before my friend digaran transforms the thread into his signature Advert avenue.

Absolutely. The decision has been made and all this is a further useless discussion.