Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on Today at 09:31:44 AM

Quote from: 3kpk3 on Today at 07:50:52 AM

Quote from: Peeps Place on December 19, 2023, 04:05:22 AM

Stake 12/18/2023 ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5478418.0
Fortunejack 12/18/2023 ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5478417.0

These two were just added so the credibility is to be determined.

Both seem credible, but they aren't really scams commited by the sites themselves. The gambler on Stake lost his money to a hacker since he didn't enable 2FA which implies that fault lies on both sides here.

In the FJ case, it seems that a third party is responsible for the issue and FJ is already trying to resolve the issue.

The case which happened to the stake user is definitely the fault of the user and not stake, so I am going to disagree with you when you say it's the fault of both sides.

Stake have done their best in providing good security features for their users, Stake still can not be the one to turn on those security features for the user, a user is solely responsible for turning on any of the security features he or she feels he or she needs, and leave the ones he or she thinks is irrelevant to him or her, if a user having good amount of money on his or her stake account doesn't find it needful to turn on 2fa for the safety of their funds, then whatever happens that leads to the user losing those funds, that is clearly his or her fault and not the fault of the Casino.

On telegram, I belong to a high rollers group, and those guys play majorly on Stake, the group has over 800 members, and the majority of them has nothing less than $400,000 on their respective stake accounts which they use for gambling and sports betting, for around eight months I've been in that group, no one of them have ever complained of losing his or her money on stake, aside the money lost to gambling.

Some times, some of the cases that are coming against some of the reputable casinos are pour lack of experience and knowledge from the gambler, how can you be blaming a casino for your own mistakes, because most times, those who come up with all these accusations when checked properly are the main reasons why they had that problem in the first place, for example, how can anyone who failed to read the terms and conditions of a casino come out to blame that casinos simply because their demand for KYC along the line?

So if such a gamble should come out to accuse being locked out from the casino due to non-kyc non-availability or unable to meet the KYC requirements it becomes very obvious that he failed on his part to take note of details and that shouldn't be blamed on the casino on the long run, the reason why we still have some of those cases untreated is that the casinos have already taken their stand on that case and they won't go back to change things just to favour particular players.