Quote from: Dump3er on December 27, 2023, 08:52:57 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 27, 2023, 02:45:23 AM

I heard good things about Niacin (and Glutamin), and about 8 months ago, I was trying to stimulate a discussion on the topic by creating a thread, but I did not stimulate too much of such conversation, and I have been taking those as supplements since starting that thread, yet I am not sure if I feel any results from adding those two to my regime. I do already take vitamin C and I started taking Zinc recently too.. and gosh I hate to admit all of the supplements that I added recently, so it is not really clear if there are abilities to be scientific if too many are added.. and then a kind of wondering whether any of them are helping anything.

@JayJuanGee I like this topic very much and had a look at the thread you opened about it. It would be nice if you continued the discussion in your thread and I would really like to contribute every now and then as I think it's very interesting and important.
I have some experience to share there. May I ask you guys to keep that in JJG's thread? That would be awesome as the info is gathered in one place and I think it would benefit anyone who is interested or wants to chime in.

Ok. Maybe you inspired me to try to post more in that other thread? I posted a response to you in that thread and also to the latest post in the thread - a post I had not responded to - so the latest post had been dangling since early September.

Quote from: Lucius on December 27, 2023, 11:15:25 AM

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on December 26, 2023, 06:46:28 PM

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Nice video. It's definitely coming. There will always be noise (read: COVID, Ukraine, FTX, etc.) that causes deviations from the trend, but the trend is there, and always has been. I think we will see 6 digits by 2025. Exact figures like $250,000 are fun and generate clicks, but don't make much practical sense. Bitcoin-friendly banks and ETFs are a necessary "evil" in the path of Bitcoin adoption. It is naive to expect a total collapse of the traditional system, and not everyone can be their own bank. It will not collapse, it will adapt, and it is adapting.

Looking forward to an exciting new year!

They are definitely a necessary evil, no matter how much you look at such things positively, the fact is that banks, funds and most governments of the world do not see anything positive in Bitcoin other than a way to profit. That's why we see that they don't mind too much when someone trades with Bitcoin, but it really bothers them when someone uses it as a means of payment. As far as I know, in Turkey and Thailand, Bitcoin is banned as a means of payment, but trading is allowed, and I wonder if some other countries will perhaps follow that example.

it is quite likely that all kinds of laws are going to end up getting passed, and some of them might make sense or even have outward appearances of trying to do something fair, yet the fact of the matter is that bitcoin cannot really be stopped, even though there are a lot of ways it can be suppressed and maybe just increase some of the wac-a-mole kind of practices - including that some jurisdictions are likely not going to be as hostile as others, and surely some jurisdictions might find it in their interest to go opposite to other jurisdiction that are trying to impose their standards upon another jursidiction.

Quote from: Lucius on December 27, 2023, 11:15:25 AM

I also agree that Bitcoin currently does not have the power to seriously disrupt traditional financial systems that have been created for hundreds of years and that people trust to the greatest extent. Bitcoin is more for those looking for an alternative, although human greed and stupidity always find a way to disrupt that. Of course I'm referring to ordinals and all similar nonsense that increase the prices of on-chain transactions and push people even more away from using BTC as a currency.

Bitcoin is somewhat built upon ideals of greed... and acting in your own self-interest makes the system stronger.. and sure, it might seem that there is some gaming going on with the ordinals/inscriptions that is not really sustainable, and it is really difficult to say if there might be some companies making enough money to be paying as much fees as they are paying, and sure there could also be a coupling of an attack that is going along with some degenerate gambling behaviors.. and I am surely not going to claim to know, even though I get the sense that it might not be easy to continue to hold the fees up, and maybe once we get to the halvening, there might be some new dynamics that could incentivize, either way (in terms of keeping the fees up).

Quote from: OutOfMemory on December 27, 2023, 12:32:29 PM

You can't enjoy Bitcoin much if you are not feeling healthy, so the health topics are at least a bit related and not completely off-topic here.
But this is just uhm... my opinion, man Cheesy

It seems to me that anything is "on-topic" here, unless you devolve into pumping it like a shitcoin, then some of us might start to consider your lack of topicality.

Quote from: OutOfMemory on December 27, 2023, 12:32:29 PM

@JJG: Maybe you remember my past with chronic fatigue, this was when pharma couldn't help and i had to dive into biochemistry literature to find promising supplements. This way i learned which ones were actually effective and how they interact. There are some overrated (remember the B12 hype?), some snake-oilish ones, but a few are very effective when dosed and absorbed properly. All the B-Vitamins are cross-dependent in metabolism, it's rarely the case to successfully address a deficit without causing another one in the Group of B-Vitamins. You should probably take B6 and B1 in about double RDA, four hours apart, also to the Niacin to keep things working well over longer times. I'll come back to your Glutamin/Niacin thread later, got some more knowledge and experience to share about these two as well.

In my Gultamin/Niacin thread I was trying to get people to listen to and then to respond to some of the claims in the podcast that I linked, and so far, there have been no one who responded in that thread and claimed to have listened to the podcast and/or had any arguments in regards to the claims within the podcast... which was largely implying that we are more and more Niacin deficient.