Quote from: Bit_Happy on April 22, 2014, 11:44:42 PM

I haven't read the whole thread.
Hopefully by now someone mentioned how wasteful modern meat production is.
The amount of water and grain used by cattle is staggering.

First page. Also I haven't replied to you yet Apsvinet because I am going to be distracted by work for a while.

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Quote from: K3nn3th on April 21, 2014, 03:28:49 PM

There is nothing wrong with eating meat. Some people think it is wrong how the meat is raised, but that is understandable.

If humans all convert to vegans it will deplete the land fertility and all the unkilled animals will cause massive environmental disaster. Look at India its a hell hole where cows and all kinds of animals shit on your doorstep

Wrong. Farming livestock does much damage to the environment on all fronts, and cows are sacred in India that's why they roam around.

Wrong, Cows produce higher carbon footprint that all cars trucks ships and planes on the planet combined

Killing animals helps protect the environment

Pure vegan means fertile land depletion will accelerate and all managing all the extra animals will be a disaster

India is a hell hole chk out some vids where cows will shit on your car (as you are driving by)

This is the future grass eaters want

I used to eat meat every day, 3 times a day, sometimes more times a day.

I used to go to fast food places, order Popeyes, I used to buy meat for groceries, I used to cook meat for every meal, I put turkey inside of the oven, all that good stuff so I know how both sides work.

I know what meat taste like, I've eaten Whoppers, big macs, steak, all of that stuff for the majority of my life and never questioned anything different.

But honestly, these vegetable substitutes taste so much better man. So much better. I've taken a few friends to these restaurants and they honestly couldn't tell they were eating food that had no meat in them.

I cook some vegetable meat substitutes at home now too, they taste just as delicious if not better than before. Plus I feel so much better about everything in life. I feel like I can think so much more quickly, that my body is more agile than ever before, and that I'm stronger than ever before too. Every aspect just improved.

So let's have a more open mind okay instead of saying everything that's you don't do is unacceptable.

"To produce 1 lb. of feedlot beef requires 7 lbs. of feed grain, which takes 7,000 lbs. of water to grow."

"Pass up one hamburger, and you'll save as much water as you save by taking 40 showers with a low-flow nozzle."

"Yet in the U.S., 70% of all the wheat, corn and other grain produced goes to feeding herds of livestock."

"Around the world, as more water is diverted to raising pigs and chickens instead of producing crops for direct consumption, millions of wells are going dry."

"India, China, North Africa and the U.S. are all running freshwater deficits, pumping more from their aquifers than rain can replenish. As populations in water-scarce regions continue to expand, governments will inevitably act to cut these deficits by shifting water to grow food, not feed."

"In the U.S., livestock now produce 130 times as much waste as people do."

" Just one hog farm in Utah, for example, produces more sewage than the city of Los Angeles."

"These megafarms are proliferating, and in populous areas their waste is tainting drinking water."

- Ed Sayres, Time.com