Quote from: apsvinet on April 23, 2014, 12:00:28 AM

http://authoritynutrition.com/5-brain-nutrients-in-meat-fish-eggs/
Sadly you can't only eat plants. :/

I liked Lynn's arguments more but Here is my response from reading the article:

1. Vitamin B12
Multivitamins have this. Meat substitutes have this. Soy milk has this. Vegan cheese has this.
It's added to a lot of Vegan foods you can buy so we don't have a lack of this at all especially if you take a multivitamin daily.

2. Creatine
True we can't get it from eating plants alone, but like the article says: "Vegetarians who take creatine supplements see improvements in cognitive performance"

3. Vitamin D3
I don't see how this is a problem. When you go jogging every day, you will be exposed to the sun often and make more of your own Vitamin D3. Also you get this from Multivitamins if you take one daily.

4. Carnosine
Much like creatine, you can also get this from supplements if you wanted to.

5. Omega-3 Fatty Acids
Not unique to animals, you can get these from foods such as flaxseeds and chia seeds.

Quote from: kuroman on April 23, 2014, 01:23:55 AM

How is it invalid? if it wasn't for eating meat you wouldn't be typing right now on this forum this is a fact, also consuming meats is not only about Proteins, but calcium, enzymes vitamins such as B12 ect, while yes you can mix several vegetables to by pass meat, the fact is, meat is the most naturally occurring, well balanced and easily obtained and digested package of proteins, essential acids and source of iron and Vitamin B 12 that you can find. Somehow you must find and consume all of the things that meat provides so that your body can stay healthy. A meat based high protein diet is good for you. Even vegetarians are realizing they need meat in their diet (according to the power of meat website lol).

If we follow the same logic, why would you bother eating vegetables, when you can make all the nutritions you need artificially/chemically it doesn't make sens at all, also what doesn't make sense is the reply of the guy who's been claiming that being a vegetarian makes you smart that triggered my initial reply which is by any objective metric you can find it is not true.

Humans needs a balanced diet, meat shoudn't be abused, nor some types of vegetables, balance is the key

If it weren't for plants you also wouldn't be here typing right now, this is a fact. You don't need to consume meat, all those nutrients you are talking about such as proteins, calcium, enzymes, vitamins such as B12, can all be found in meat substitutes:

These are much more easily available to produce and create than real meat. The nutrition you get from each would be roughly the same, though I would argue that the substitution meats would have more nutrients because they are plant based, as well as having less fat and zero cholesterol. Therefore making these foods the most easily obtained and digested package of proteins, essential acids and sources if iron and Vitamin B12 that you can find as it does not take months or years to make.

Humans don't need the balanced diet you are talking about to survive, as like you said, we can easily supplement ourselves. Plus we don't have such a high risk of diabetes, cancer, or heart disease from eating healthy and delicious tasting food.