Quote from: lynn_402 on April 23, 2014, 01:00:53 AM

Quote from: apsvinet on April 23, 2014, 12:55:31 AM

While this may be right you COULD, and hear me out on this one, eat meat, and not have to worry about your intake of seeds.
Soy products are still not anywhere near equal meat protein due to the estrogen-like substance in it, no matter what you say.

Besides the article wasn't about vital nutriments, just basically stating it's more efficient to just eat meat if you want to control your intake.
About the vitamin D, it's not fair to say "you get it from the sun". In the northern part of the world you will not get your daily requirement during the winter half year, which is a fact. Basically everyone in Scandinavia when being tested for vitamin D deficiency are under the line of what's recommended, and up to 10% of the population in Sweden are at values low enough to risk being directly damaging.

I agree that those living in the northern hemisphere would benefit in eating some meat, hence why there are way less vegetarians in these parts of the world. But that is not the case of most people

And yep, it's easier to eat meat and not have to worry about getting all essential nutriments. But it is possible to be perfectly healthy while being vegan, and getting all nutriments is really easy if you add the occasional eggs or dairy product on top of that. (For the records - I'm not vegan)

(Also, the estrogen-like substance in soy products is a problem only if you abuse them. Asians have been eating considerable amounts of soy since centuries)

What is your point with the last remark, out of curiosity? Estrogen isn't technically a 'bad' thing, but it is the female sex hormones, which should arguably not be consumed by men. I don't see the 'problem' you're referring to with abuse of the soy products, my point is that it's just not comparable to meat proteins because it's not the same thing. Soy products should be avoided for men while building muscles, etc, otherwise it's not a problem.