Quote from: bradmurmz on April 22, 2014, 11:54:55 PM

ALSO, why wouldn't you just trade on your speculation about what will happen to price down the road, when it happens, Instead of coming in here now and making multiple long posts about it?? Especially if you were a supposed stake holder... I think we all know by now that there really is only one reason to do such things... Just sad how much this coin has taken a beating from all this. Could have really had some natural momentum going for it from the starting line, but now everyone is all skeptical because of the price drop. Angry

Who said I was a stake holder? I wasn't involved in IPO and only have a few small mining rigs. I didn't sell any of my holdings until after my initial post on 4/9 and AFTER the first post from keccak512 saying my post was a "doomsday" message he didn't agree with and wouldn't make any changes. Then I SOLD EVERYTHING I HAD at that time at around 3500-3600ish. No advantage over anyone else. Just for the record, I have not and presently do not plan on purchasing any HVC unless something changes. I continue to mine HVC with 1 or 2 GPUs but that is all. I just started mining this coin like everyone else on day one. The only reason I continue to mine with a GPU or two is that I think that's only fare since I keep posting in the forum. Nothing more, nothing less.

The reason the coin is taking a beating is that people get what I've said (and many others) and understand the problems. It's the devs who either don't get it or don't care. If you want to put blame on somebody then put the blame on the people who can change/fix it, not on those who report the problems. The Devs have more or less went into hiding without addressing the issues, the lower hash rates, the falling price of HVC, etc. (see posts from earlier today/yesterday).

Regardless of if I ever posted my finding, the problem would still be there come sustain phase. Somebody else would have figured the same thing out sooner or later. Would you rather keep mining and holding additional coins for another 3 months before finding out they are going to tank or would you rather have known 2 weeks ago?

Quote from: cryptomines on April 23, 2014, 01:59:46 AM

Oh my god! Finally the vote is sub 500! To bad network hashrate is so low. But as I said before, this might be what we need to get the vote down to a good level for longer term mining. The problem is that if hvc gains value all the greedy miners will come back and vote high as they have done up untill now. This is the problem that never goes away. The hvc faithful will vote low because they believe long term mining is key to hvc success.

Plan B:
If you can't get the "high" voters to lower their vote, then scare them off the network Grin

You are dead/spot on, IMHO. Going to be vicious circle. But with lower hash and hopefully lower vote counts coming in some additional time has been bought to allow more time for things to work themselves out properly and allow the market to adjust.

Quote from: kqpahv on April 23, 2014, 08:45:41 AM

Yeah, like the price is a MAGICAL variable that lives a life of its own and is not tied to other variables at all Roll Eyes

For 5 HVC blockrewards to work the price would have to increase 100x +. Even then it takes a less than 10btc investment to perform a 51% attack to just kill the coin. Who in their right minds would invest in something that risky and vulnerable ?
Now how exactly do you see the value increasing 100 folds if even at current all time low prices the daily volume is 3btc Roll Eyes

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Cayars uses logic in his speculations you are just hoping on "magical" price increase lol. I dumped all 0.5M HVC's at the 2300-2000satoshi range and am not planning to buy in before something is done.

Short and right to the point. Great summary! Glad somebody else gets it.