Quote from: coolcoinz on January 19, 2024, 06:23:09 PM

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It's a double negative. If nobody will not use them then somebody will Wink

Jokes aside, I'm not sure if Putin is completely sane. He uses nuclear arsenal as a deterrent saying that if attacked he will use them, but at the same time attacks other countries hoping that they won't. I'm also pretty sure that Ukrainians would nuke Russia if they had access to nukes, the same way that Palestinians would nuke Israel.
Knowing that, I think it's not a question if but when.

Take your idea of a war with NATO. NATO is much stronger than Russia, even if Russia was using Chinese weapons. It could prolong the war, but it wouldn't win it, mainly due to untrained army that would have to fight well trained artillery and tank crews from Germany, France and Sweden. Russia sends convicts to Ukraine because that's all they can do without weakening their borders. They expected a war that would last weeks and it's been years. What would happen if they started a war and lost it? Do you think NATO would push them back to the border and stop there? Defeated Russia might try to cover their escape with nuclear weapons.

What parameters did you base your argument on?
Britain is effectively out of arms and has no military stockpile(check out articles in the daily telegraph which is a British media company or others like it),Germany is planning to train and field 5,000 -30,000 troops to be sent to the Baltics by 2027,
According to and admitted by western intelligence Russia is outproducing the entire west ie USA and all it's allies NATO inclusive in artillery,drones,missiles,tanks,aircrafts,ships,submarines,practically in everything Russia outproduces the west and in terms of troops,well simply put last year Russia added 500,000 plus troops well trained and equipped to the smo in Ukraine something none of the western countries is able to do
The USA is experiencing up to 65% fall in recruitment targets,all European militaries are a joke,they've never at any point in history been able to stand in the way of the Russian military so where are you getting your claims from or is it just wishful thinking

Also nuclear weapons are for deterrence and you thinking a conflict with a nuclear armed power means the other nation will be nuked means you're ill informed for instance Iran very recently had clashes with Pakistan and nukes weren't even mentioned so you need to stop all this fantasy and focus on reality

War also involves economy to sustain it,if a war were to break out between NATO and Russia ,the entire eurozone is in recession,Germany has been de-industrialised,France and Britain essentially have no standing army of more than 100,000 troops and that's me exaggerating,the USA's economy is a joke cos it's more of a virtual economy focusing on stocks and shares and outsourcing production to other countries and Russia which effectively produces everything it uses en masse backed by China the largest economy in the world,not mentioning iran, north Korea,Belarus and India
How exactly is it that you see NATO being able to even engage in not to talk of winning such a conflict