Quote from: Kruw on Today at 03:26:41 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 03:18:18 AM

I believe that it is a bad idea to purposefully make arguments that are aimed at someone's credibility and past conduct at the new of his announcement that he is leaving the forum due to his belief that he does not have much time left on this planet, and we have no reason to believe that Leo is making up his reason for leaving the forum.. even though we likely are not able to completely confirm his claims either - except that he had been considered a reliable and credible person on the forum, and I have not seen any significant and/or meaningful posts to establish that o_e_l_e_o engaged in the conduct that you are accusing him of having had done, including that lying is a kind act that seems to need to establish bad intentions, and largely I came to this thread in order to post my response to the news of o_e_l_e_o's farewell since o_e_l_e_o had locked his thread by the time I had drafted my response that I was going to post in that thread.

Admittedly, I am not very much interested in the topic of your OP, so maybe it is my own mistake to participate in this thread and to mostly ignore your OP... report me for being somewhat off-topic if you must...

That's a fair (albeit long) statement.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 03:18:18 AM

Another thing, I think that if you had disagreements with o_e_l_e_o in regards to various posts that he made in various threads then you would have had already likely addressed those concerns inside of those other threads, or maybe you will repeat your claims against o_e_l_e_o in those threads, but based on his farewell thread and even his post claiming that he is not posting any more on the forum, now you know that he is not going to be responding to your posts, and it seems that he is the best person to respond to the claims contained within the specific kinds of posts that you are making that raise issues of his credibility or his bad intentions as you characterize them to be...

You'll notice that I have not referred to any "disagreements" between myself and o_e_l_e_o for proof, in fact, most of the evidence I quoted from o_e_l_e_o was authored before I joined Bitcointalk.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 03:18:18 AM

Maybe you are wanting me to read your OP with more detail? Is that what you are requesting, even though I am not really that interested in complaints of past behaviors in regards to a guy (o_e_l_e_o in this case) who is not going to be defending himself, and so his posts likely speak for themselves in terms of how much credibility they deserve. You are suggesting that there are some smoking gun pieces of evidence contained in your OP outline of evidence that I need to review in order to change my opinion (or my historical trust) of o_e_l_e_o and/or his historical representations?

The OP is rather intimidatingly long, so if you want to focus on the "smoking gun", the first two quotes are the ones that reveal o_e_l_e_o was aware that a coordinator spying on Wasabi users is not possible:

Quote from: Kruw on January 18, 2024, 11:03:00 AM

TIMELINE

March 14 2022 - o_e_l_e_o admits coordinator policy doesn’t affect your inputs, admits to BlackHatCoiner that switching coordinators solves the censorship problem, and admits to BlackHatCoiner that his motivation is simply to fight against Wasabi anyways:

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on March 14, 2022, 09:12:40 PM

Even if this change from Wasabi won't affect any of your inputs, they are no longer an entity which I can trust to fight for my privacy.

Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on March 14, 2022, 08:36:39 PM

Would it be possible for some to start running coordinators?

Absolutely. The coordinator code is open source, so anyone can download it and spin up their own instance. That would solve the immediate problem if everyone switched to a different coordinator, but it doesn't stop these other coordinators being pressured in to implementing the same restrictions and it doesn't change the fact that Wasabi did this in the first place instead of fighting against it.

March 15 2022 - o_e_l_e_o admits that the data feed is a 1 way street from a blockchain analysis company to the coordinator, and that no data is provided to blockchain analysis:

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on March 15, 2022, 05:44:11 PM

Quote from: witcher_sense on March 15, 2022, 05:19:49 AM

In fact, they need to cooperate with blockchain analysis to obtain information about "taint" UTXOs.

Well, they only need to cooperate in this sense to have the blockchain analysis entity feed them data about which UTXO's to block. But as I said, if they cooperate like this then it won't be long before that cooperation becomes a two way street, with them feeding data back to the blockchain analysis entity.

Between the time that you made this responsive post and my earlier post, I made did some further editing of my earlier post... so it is not exactly a comfortable topic for me.

I will admit that I read through one or two Wasabi wallet threads, and I had not been much of a fan of wasabi wallet in the last couple of years when a lot of the negative press had been coming out regarding some changes that were made regarding coordinators, and I am likely not even able to clearly articulate my concerns, and I don't really want to use the mixing services because I think that other members are raising plenty of concerns regarding why not to trust the wallet in terms of cooperation agreements that Wasabi has with chain analysis firms. Maybe historically I had agreed with some of the judgements of o_e_l_e_o on the topic and even BlackHatcoiner and some other fairly vocal Wasabi critics. I don't see any problems with the kinds of statements from o_e_l_e_o and his continued assertions of not trusting Wasabi wallet... maybe he is wrong about some things, but I doubt that his conduct rises to the level of intentionally lying or misleading even if he was wrong or admitted that he was wrong about some of Wasabi's practices.

I am surely not technical enough to even understand a lot of the assertions, even though from time to time I do read through some of those kind of technical and/or privacy threads, but sometimes it is not easy for me to relate to all of the things that are being claimed, even though I am not retarded so I do understand some of the claims and/or some of the overall assessments and generally from time to time, I end up relying on various representations and assessments of other forum members who seem to have more technical knowledge than me...and yeah if it starts to appear to me that one or another member is lying or being disingenuine in his posts and/or his assertions then I might choose to rely less upon their representations in future posts... and I still believe that o_e_l_e_o tended to post in good faith, even though I can recall that sometimes he took some pretty strict privacy stances, and I am not even clear if I would be willing to take similar steps as him because sometimes there is a need for greater technical knowledge if any of us were going to take some of the additional privacy steps such as discontinuing to use some of the consumer-friendly phones or applications, but that still does not mean that I have been very excited about Wasabi in the last few years, even though I don't claim to completely understand all of the details - but in the last year or two I have not been feeling any inclinations to want to use Wasabi.

In the coming weeks, I will try to make some time and look at that 5 page Wasabi thread that you highlighted with o_e_l_e_o 's participation therein, even though no member has posted in that thread since mid 2022.