Quote from: greghawk on April 23, 2014, 07:51:20 PM

Ok, maybe I´m just dump, but please be patient.
I´m reading this topic for a while and was wondering why some people are getting so angry.

I really don´t like the tone of some of you here, just because you are shitting bricks, you can talk normal.
Why are you guys getting so emotional?
You know you shouldn´t play with money you can not afford to lose.
Ok, it maybe sounds like a teacher. Just wanna let you know, I also ordered 3 Neptunes in November with a loan from my Bank.
Nobody forced me, it was my decision. So I can just blame my self.
I understand that KnC is behaving not very nice and customer friendly in some points. We all waiting for infos.
Clearly I would also be angry if I had to wait for weeks until I get my refund, or even an answer.
But until now, this didn´t happen to me with KnC.
Every time I wrote an email, I got an answer and had to wait at latest 2 days for it.
Maybe I´m just lucky?
I´d like to understand, why anybody changed his order to FrankenJup?
Ok, you´ll probably mining next week, but you´ll have 28nm and just 3 month warranty. Never ever would have done that.
Also wouldn´t change my order to Titans. It´s just scrypt, not scrypt-n and I think, we all are pretty sure, that it´ll come to late.

So either stay with Neptunes or refund.
So after all the speculations here, lets stay with the facts. And please correct me, if I´m wrong!

Until the Jupiters, KnC delivered as the one and only european company who builds asics as promised and way better.
Why would they saw off the branch they're sitting on?
They have a good name, they´ll surely try to keep it. They earned money, and yes of course, they want more.
Fine for me, as long as I get, what I paid for and I get it in time.

Who can prove, that this won´t happen? Q1 is over, I know, but they never promised it. Although we all wanted to believe it so desperately.

And please don´t compare AMD or NVIDIA 20nm problems with asics. It´s completely different.

Because they made all this shit from PRE-ORDER MONEY.

WE funded them with peorders. They were the nice guys with under promise over deliver, netwotk protection statement... and so and so.....

Now they fu.. our ass....

I couldn't say a word for example Bitmain do this, or Bitfury made his own mine... They never used customer funds to show something.

You wrote you ordered Neptunes, I think you got here at this stage. Check the beginning of this whole shit and you'll understand what is going on here.

Ps: And they on their way to make the largest mine on the world..... (maybe)