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whos considerations about ~"solutions"~ help who the most.. poor or elite, mine or yours

Of course, you are the greatest franky. I have nothing materially important to say (that i have not already said) in regards to how folks might attempt to prepare themselves for present and/or future transaction fees..

its not about a whos the greatest.. im not here for ass-kissery.. never have been
its about you admitting who does it benefit.. poor or elites (which you still dont want to answer properly)

I already said what I was going to say. There is no need to say more, especially in regards to your further attempts to narrow the questions into attempts to deal with the ought rather than the is.

Quote from: franky1 on Today at 08:14:35 AM

its about think for yourself about the crap that you have been taught through social scripts(your over use of certain words, phrases and promotions proves it), who does your preferential mantra benefit the most.

I am already think for myself. Don't you think?

hahahahaha

Obviously you don't think so, or at least you are making shit up to proclaim that it is your belief (or conclusion based on everything you know) that I am not sufficiently and/or adequately thinking for myself in the terms of frank1 standards.

Quote from: franky1 on Today at 08:14:35 AM

im not here for ass-kissery.. never have been
who does your recited mantra of other idiots.. benefit the most

Hopefully each of us can figure out our own ways to interact with the chain or to use various 2nd or 3rd party mechanisms in such a way that we become more informed by participating in threads like this one.

Quote from: franky1 on Today at 08:14:35 AM

its about you coming to the realisation that the stuff you want to promote is not even things that benefit you.

I am not promoting anything that goes beyond attempting to be practical for anyone who might want to involve himself in transaction in bitcoin. If there are ways of interacting that I don't know about, then I am more than willing to learn. Furthermore, I cannot even keep up with my own experimentation, since there are ONLY so many hours in a day in order to attempt to try out solutions that I have not yet tried. Accordingly sometimes it helps to hear about the experiences of others in order to decide which kinds of solutions might be worth trying out.

Quote from: franky1 on Today at 08:14:35 AM

its an attempt to realise you are shooting yourself in the foot by promoting things that are not aiding your own involvement in bitcoin.

You are repeating yourself about nonsense, and I even question how helpful any of this back and forth is to anyone.. in the direction of: "Let's hear frank rant about how others are not bitcoiners enough under franky's definition of what should be a bitcoiner."

Quote from: franky1 on Today at 08:14:35 AM

its about learning the stuff you promote is not thing that will help out those that want to have their transactions in mempools and relayed to mining pools to get into blocks,
instead your mantra you got taught is about evading even being in mempools, evading even being in blocks, evading having own funds on own utxo and instead just sticking with the status quo of if they did try to send or receive transaction they are more likely to just get purged from mempool and never get relayed to mining pools to be added to a block.
thus not even a solution to the problems that created annoyances for those that dont want to be purged from the mempool.

You seem to be projecting upon me things that I did not say, even if some of what I said may have some of the consequences that you said.. so yeah, using 2nd, 3rd layer options would not be using the mempool as often, but still may well end up tying into the mempool, depending on which option that we might discuss..

Quote from: franky1 on Today at 08:14:35 AM

your preference is not a solution to the annoyances observed in the mempool. its instead evading being observed in mempool in its totality

Again, I doubt that I am promoting that...even though if some predictions into the future might be that some people might avoid (minimize or be priced out of) interacting with the mempool if it is not economical for them.

Maybe one thing that I might say is that if the fees are currently coming back down, then we might be able to conclude that whatever was being done in the last 3 months or so to keep the fees high might not be very sustainable, and it may well be better to not change anything rather than to be forced (or rushed) into a change that is largely being artificially created in order to cause people to consider that something is broken or some urgent change is needed... and so yeah, there might not be as much urgency as some complainers (cough, cough franky1) are trying to push.