Quote from: Gormicsta on Today at 06:44:16 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 04:29:42 AM

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This proves but one thing, it shows that there's a lot of nuance involved in deciding how to choose one's investment approach. It's not as simple as choosing one approach over the other, it's about balancing risk and reward, and finding the right mix for your personal situation. It's also very important to consider your long-term goals and how the different approaches might impact your ability to reach those goals.

The Lump Sum and DCA debate is often framed as an either/or proposition, but there are actually a lot of different options in between. It's possible to split the difference and do a combination of both strategies. For example, someone could make a large lump sum investment but then use DCA to gradually increase their position over time or they could alternatively do a smaller lump sum investment and then use DCA to add to their position if the price goes down. Because either ways one should really be prepared for everything when investing in Bitcoin, it's good to be optimistic about the price of Bitcoin going up, maybe due to your research or some circumstances that may propel it to go up, some people even make important financial decisions that would affect them just because someone else says so. Just being optimistic isn't enough, one have to also prepare for the worse too, prepare for an alternate measure, just incase things doesn't go as expected.

You keep framing a dichotomy between lump sum and DCA, yet even buying on the dip has a lot of potential for importance.. and I hate to narrow down too much in regards to when buying on the dip might be a better frame, except I think it should be a strategy for someone who largely already has prepared for up rather than someone who is not adequately prepared for up.

From my perspective, the person who employs buying the dip without adequately preparing for UP is either employing a kind of gambling strategy and/or a waiting strategy.. and waiting strategies kind of annoy me because they are likely not bullish enough on bitcoin (from my perspective).

Going back to the $100k or the $113k in 6 months example, like I mentioned such a person could front load a bit (such as $70k) and then dedicate the remainder towards DCA and buying on dips and then reassess after 6 months. So if the remainder 43.5k is divided into 2, then each of the portions would be $21.5k, so DCA could be $827 per week for the next 26 weeks, and then the buying on dip portion could perhaps be structured to go down to around $31k (which is right around where the 200-week moving average is right now... so if the guy is a bit anxious that dips might not happen, maybe he ONLY goes down to $35k.. and yeah we already know that right now it could well be possible that sub $40k might never be reached again; however, if the person is a bit more comfortable with his level of front loading, then he could structure his buying on dip to go down to $28k or something like that. maybe the guy who decides to ONLY go down to $35k might choose buy on dips every $500 dip starting at $46,500 (presuming that his lump sum of $70k had been executed at $47k), so then that would be 23 buy orders which would be $935 each ($21.5k / 23). Alternatively, if the guy is quite satisfied about his level of preparation for up, then maybe he starts his buy orders at $44.5k, and then has them every $1k down to $28.5k, which would be 16 buy orders of $1,344 ($21.5k /16).

My main point is just to show that buying on dips can have quite a lot of importance, especially for the guy who is already prepared for UP, but at the same time is wanting to structure some advantages in case the BTC price runs against him. .and yeah, he is not going to make any kind of killing off of buying on dips because he likely is losing way more value in his holdings from the BTC price going down rather than UP, but at the same time, he ends up employing some tactics to lower his cost per BTC, while still holding and still investing and refusing to sell, by buying at various price points on the way down in accordance with his own views of his situation that includes some calculations of odds of where he believes the BTC price is and where it might go and without being so cocky as to presume that he knows the answer but at the same time putting his money where his mouth is.

Quote from: Gormicsta on Today at 06:44:16 AM

Some people might feel comfortable making decisions that concern their investment on their own and without involving any third party, but I Believe it's really important to consult a financial advisor who can help them weigh the different options and make a decision that's right for them. Because most investors don't even know what decision would impact their goals, some are following a strategy simply because others are doing the same thing. This is why it would be really helpful to seek the services of a financial advisor so one can start making the right decision towards choosing the right approach.

I doubt that a financial advisor is going to be helpful for most people who are able to interact with a forum like this, unless they are just wanting to get sold on inferior ideas and inferior products, and sure there might be some financial advisors who will be ready, wiling and able to provide accurate advice that includes BTC accumulation and maintenance strategies, but a lot of them are likely wanting to get their clients into products that justify their fees.. .. and don't get me wrong, I am not against knowledge and/or brainstorming with folks.. but I would think that there are likely better ways to spend time, even though surely many people are busy with their own lives too.. so they might end up not spending enough time in regards to some kinds of knowledge that should be fairly easily within their grasp.. and sure consult with a financial advisor, but also consider preparing for any such consultations in order to really be able to engage in critical thinking during any such consultation rather than getting sold some good, products or even advise against bitcoin and into shitcoins that may well not be financially good for you.

Quote from: slaman29 on Today at 11:54:10 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 04:29:42 AM

There are a lot of creative ways to calculate how much cash you have available now and account for your cashflow and also account for being prepared in case the BTC price goes down instead of up.. but sometimes people are so determined that the price is ulitmately gong up that they do not mind just front loading all of it and not preparing for down or sideways and their cashflow does not matter as much as it does to people who might rely more on cashflows rathe than money that they can move around from other investments.

And that to me is the brilliance of DCA which I will always recommend, in fact, the only thing I advice. Whatever the situation, whatever the financial cashflow available and whatever the risk appetite, DCA always wins you some gains even as short as 2 to 3 years (the entire bear window in a cycle).

It even gives confidence and experience to those who can't afford strategy or don't have wisdom. It's like a surefire way, I wish I did it much earlier.

For sure, for anyone who has BTC accumulation goals, when in doubt DCA, it is likely superior to both lump sum and buying on dip for the vast majority of folks, especially in their earlier stages of building their BTC holdings, especially since an overwhelming number of normies do not even have any kind of realistic option of lump sum (without devolving into gambling) and if they do have some lump sum available, it may well even be better to figure out some kind of a DCA way to strategize their lump sum that would not just be putting it all in at once which might convert them into a waiting strategy, especially if they over do their lump sum from the beginning.. ..

And, any how, DCA can become even more powerful when supplemented with lump sum and buying on dips, yet we would still have to presume some abilities to incorporate those lump sum and buying on dips, which tends to be some kind of lump sum being available or perhaps some sufficient level of already having had bought BTC in order to justify already largely being prepared for UP... so the punchline, when in doubt DCA, structure your DCA to a reasonable level of your disposable income (and maybe you have to adjust up and down on a weekly basis depending on cashflow variations), and don't be waiting around, especially when it comes to BTC and making sure (at all times) that you are sufficiently/adequately prepared for UP... even if the BTC price is dipping and continuing to dip, make sure to continue to prepare for UP.. which DCA does seem to help in accomplishing such.