Quote from: xhomerx10 on Today at 01:29:54 PM

This feels right. I think this is the best possible template for a WO commemorative throwing star

Now we need a die to stamp them out - got time for more gubmint work, sirazimuth?

Every year has green and red, yet sure at the same time, so far there have been 3 greens and 1 red in terms of overall direction for each of the cycles.. even though normies, no coiners, low coiners, precoiners don't necessarily recognize that even though there is a lot of volatility the historical direction has been UP and is likely going to continue to be UP, even though there are no guarantees...

and since there are no guarantees, normies get scared, and that is part of the reason that we are still early - while more and more of the BIGGER players are coming into bitcoin, but those of us who have been here for more than a few months have been able to front run them, except those of us who are newer - perhaps less than a whole cycle, have not had enough time to accumulate waht we believe to be enough coins.. .. and yeah there is going to be perceptions of not having enough coins in the beginning for those who are thinking about this properly.. but sure we are still early.. even though some richer and richer folks are getting into the game of hoarding cornz.

Some folks might not have had abilities to be aggressive in the earliest times of their BTC accumulation, yet bitcoin is not going to wait.. sorry about that.. and sorry if you feel that you are running after the train.. yet we are still relatively early, but maybe not as early as we wished we would have had been - and yeah there are guys/companies like MSTR that (who) have been into bitcoin less than a whole cycle, but surely we cannot argue that some of them had not had enough time to accumulate coins (Saylor/MSTR is just going on its (their) fourth year in July/August).

Those of us who had been somewhat aggressive in our BTC accumulation might not have had left as many coins for the now new comers to fight over, yet many of us likely were not able to be as aggressive as MSTR/Saylor, and we should still be fine..

Essentially what I am striving to say is..

Green and red in each year... and there are so many times that we feel the red more than the green, even though the reality of the matter is that so many of us in Bitcoin for a long time remain fortunate, if we had been erroring on the side of mostly accumulating and HODLing, and sure some of us, such as yours truly, sell along the way including selling all the way since 2015 - in the case of this here cat, but holy fucking shit even though the amount of the sales seems to be like a lot, some of us still have way enough cornz in light of how much we are able to sell - in a kind of sustainable withdrawal system, and still the value of our holdings still keeps going up.

I had posted the below example earlier today, and if you think about it, the value of the HOLDings in terms of valuing it with the 200-WMA still would have had gone up, even if there were a relatively aggressive withdrawals strategy of between 6% and gradually progressing to 6.5% that would have had started 17 months ago.. at more or less the bottom of the latest dip and even the worst BTC price performance - relative to the 200-WMA.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 03:56:18 PM

I just went back and did a quick calculation that even starting from October 2022 and with 21 BTC, even if we would have withdrawn at a 6% per year rate, and just do a quickie calculation of 0.1 BTC per month (even though the tool recommends to reduce the rate of withdrawal once the BTC price is less than 25% above the 200-WMA, but even if we withdrew 0.1 BTC for the last 17 months, we would end up with a reduction of our BTC holdings from 21 BTC to 19.3 BTC, and the 200-WMA value of the BTC holdings would have gone from $490k in October 2022 to $605k today.. of course BTC spot price is even greater, but this tool is attempting to help us to emphasize value based on the 200-WMA so that we are less likely to get caught up in the rash exuberance of BTC spot price changes, even though at the same time, we are advantaged to be able to sell BTC and to receive spot price which is usually (but not always) 25% or more higher than the 200-WMA.

See that experimental chart of 0.1 BTC withdrawal per month here:

Even though the flat rate is simpler to follow, it does not take advantage of either reductions or the advance months that the tool attempts to guide.. and of course, if we start with 0.1 BTC, in order to stick with 6%, we should be reducing the amount each month otherwise we are going to be withdrawing way more than 6%, but it still goes with my argument that it is my tentative conclusion that anywhere between 6% and 10% fit within levels of moderate sustainability.. and the more that you would use the guidelines of the tool, then the more likely you could gravitate more and more towards more aggressive levels of withdrawal while at the same time likely being able to retain the dollar value of your BTC holdings in light of its 200-WMA valuations.