Quote from: Legions36 on April 25, 2014, 02:04:56 AM

Quote from: Cointeller.eu on April 24, 2014, 04:14:35 PM

Legions36,

You raise some interesting points. Ill try to respond to them.

The term agent is a confusing a term within this industry with a mostly pejorative connotation. The truth is an agent can be bookmaker with hundreds or thousands of customers, booked through a site he has contracted to do service/write his customers or it can be a little guy who operates at the bottom end of the food chain, meeting up with small number of local players hoping to extract a small percent of player losses. In the case of all the sites on the Cointeller Network, the accounts are being booked by large, established bookmakers with a very large customer base. In the future, I will probably be more inclined to describe our bookmakers as pph bookmakers as opposed to agents. Both terms are accurate but the term agent is confusing and unnerving for many. The owners of Cointeller.eu as well most of the bookmakers on the Cointeller Network have been in the offshore industry for over a decade. Many of these individuals have worked with one another for years. There is not a bookmaker on the list that Cointeller does not feel comfortable guaranteeing.

Additionally, you will not see any large bet sizes or ridiculous bonuses. Initial maximum bet sizes will be in the 4-6 BTC range. This will grow in time. At the moment, no bookmakers are allowed to offer a bonus to players on the Cointeller Network. There are a few pph bookmakers who are willing to offer a introductory bonus and others who are dead set against it. Allowing bonuses to be offered by a few pph bookmakers is a a real disincentive to other potential bookmakers Cointeller is currently negotiating with. At some point, small, on-time time bonuses will be allowed . Cointeller is focused on gradual sustained growth.

We realize trust is not awarded without a spotless history of prompt payouts and excellent customer service. In the months and years to come, you will see more established, well known books appear and a lot of bobo books. There is no difference in terms of risk associated with any of these books. We realize some players like to see more well known books, while other (mostly sharp) players desire off-screen pph offices with unique numbers. We believe Cointeller offers something of value for all types of players.

Ok now it's time to consider to show some proof to all the good stuff u r saying. U say u have been in the industry for years as well as your bookmakers right? Then allow SBR or Peepsplace to look into your history more and verify everything u say to be true.
I cannot agree with what u said about SBR ratings as most of the time they are spot on, even though I don't agree with everything they have done. This raises a flag that u find the need to downplay the years they have been around. I have been with them for years and almost always followed them with good results.
Also u don't go for bonuses? This makes don't add up right, I love bonuses and feel if I want a bonus from a place then I deserve the right to have this.
What do u think about what I have said here? I also really hate that u feel all those books u have now are A+, when they really aren't even mediocre at best, the best thing they could offer players are bonuses and u won't even allow that. So people have no reason to use them when we can get better odds at other places.

I'm not surprised you like bonuses, most players do. We are offering an anonymous betting service. IMO, offering bonuses along with anonymity is foolish . If our bookmakers want to offer such a product, I would advise them against doing it. If you find solid betting services that offer BTC and bonuses I would you encourage you to take them.

Your analysis of A+/C- books ignores the fact that our vast majority of sportsbooks are pph bookmakers who have contracted to pph offices to write their action. This is completely separate from the post up division of sportsbooks you are reading about. We have an established stable of bookmakers who are interesting in adding additional customers not start up sportsbooks throwing bonuses at the masses in an attempt to instantly grow a customer base.

I appreciate your carefulness and the fact you don't know anything about us. For your own sake, please maintain the same level of caution when you are offered BTC, bonuses and low juice.