Quote from: RoadStress on April 24, 2014, 06:02:23 PM

Quote from: 2112 on April 24, 2014, 02:45:58 PM

Quote from: Flashman on April 24, 2014, 10:27:35 AM

And the Bitfury chip was supposed to be 5Gh.... it's no more of a win than anyone elses has been.

Bitfury was a single-man operation working out of a garage somewhere in Ukraine doing his first silicon. It was already full-custom while the competitor all-star-teams did standard-cell. Maybe it doesn't rate as a big win but could rate as a lowest loss. Certainly the guy gets a medal for testicular fortitude.

For me he deserves a medal too and all the respect for the big balls.

Quote from: Doge-dealer on April 24, 2014, 05:19:37 PM

Why are all you guys refunding?

Which company is trust able and can deliver asic SCRYPT miners this summer other than knc I dont want to risk with knc as they sound shady as hell. Please suggest minimum 150mhs.

People are refunding Neptunes, not Titans. You can't refund Titans.

One reason people are getting refunds on their Neptune orders is because of the actions of those at KnC (datorhal, goading people into not buying from competitors (we'll be selling upgrade boards, so keep your btc handy... then not selling those boards until a week or so ago, which is months later) no update on Neptune whatsoever then an announcement of Titan followed by an update about Titan with still zero news on Neptune... the list can go on and on) people do not trust them any longer.

Another reason for people getting Neptune refunds: the difficulty will be so high by the time if/when/if ever Neptunes are delivered, they simply won't be worth the money paid for them and will never 1) earn a decent return on investment and 2) not even pay for themselves.

So for many it's now MWA (Mining With Ants) as 1) they're selling actual, proven, physically deliverable product (not promises); 2) they actually deliver in a few days and 3) you can hash NOW, vs the unanswerable question: "will I ever get my/our Neptune?"

MWA and following this thread to see if KnC ever, ever, ever, ever actually does deliver Neptune.