Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on Today at 12:23:01 AM

Quote from: SmartGold01 on March 27, 2024, 10:59:21 PM

I believe with this idea you would see how the forum will be very busy again with people, even inactive account will wake up to start posting or even those who are thinking the system is too hard for them to grind will have hope at least.

If not receiving merit is making people sleep then let them sleep. For discussions, if anyone needs a reward then they are not discussing but chasing the benefits. The original goal of the forum is to share ideas about bitcoin, help the bitcoin development and awareness.

Yeah you are correct but I not just saying that it should be give to all profile maybe you fails to understand that part of my post, only active users and not just that but those who are engaging themselves to serious discussion. Though it's not a thing of must but we can discuss about it just as the way we are talking about it to see if there would be any solution maybe since the sources aren't that active to credits merits to people or those who has it are just spending it on WO without even spreading it across just like the way DdmrDdmr does. And of curse you are correct if those that are not receiving merits are sleeping they should keep sleeping maybe when they decides to wake up they can start from where they stops Undecided

Quote from: hugeblack on Today at 12:57:58 AM

I think that simplifying things would be good. Is the problem in the number of merit sources or in the merit system?

Well I can't point any one particularly but there should be a better way to do it than just leaving the load on one person either theymos or merits source, but from what I am observing there are lot of merits source and this should be enough to serve the forum more better than just adding. Those who are not active should be removed or reduced their allocation and give to the already pending application or alternatively increase the allocation of those that are active spending their merits wisely. For instance @ NotATether actually needs an increase, such person is active user and spending more merits only daily basis although I am not sure If I have ever received merits from him but I know he has never seen my post attractive to him otherwise he could have.

Quote from: hugeblack on Today at 12:57:58 AM

If the problem is in the sources of merit, then making these sources elective, just as in DT, or applying other solutions may help, but automation is definitely not a part of it to avoid easy manipulation of the system.

This also good and that is the reason I brought up this topic so we can also think about it and give a perfect solution to it than stress anyone, However making it Elective can also be compromised if using the DT system to implements it, this shows that anyone who is DT automatically become merits source. This makes it look so cheap in my opinion since more people are becoming DT every day.

Quote from: tranthidung on Today at 01:35:47 AM

Quote from: SmartGold01 on March 27, 2024, 10:59:21 PM

As newbie you make account and start posting or being active in the forum and you got about 1 merits to 10 merit on there own which makes them member rank right? Good! Then you needed more of 90 merits to get you full member rank. At this point theymos can set the system whereby if you gained 70 to 80 merits the system should automatically credit you 20 to 30 merits instantly without having to apply for merits counts down, and if such person is being credit such merits s/he have about 10 to 15 sMerit to spend to others whereby merits circulation won't be that scarce again.

Your proposal is not different than reduce requirement for Full member rank to 70 or 80 earned merit. So why don't propose to reduce the requirement?

You also need to know that two members with 70 earned merits are actually different in contributions and quality.

If there is a forum bot to automatically and blindly distribute 30 more merit to abusers, that sucks.

Well I don't think so, because at their own they are posting to earn merits and earning this merits shows how creative they are if they succeeded earning this merits they system can give them a left to the next rank by rewarding them merits which to give them 100 merits as full member. But it must not be giving to everyone who is just 30 to 20 merits away from their next rank rather it would be judged base on how constructive and creative you seems to be and nevertheless, theymos can implements system to show how active and creative a user is before they could be credited this merits to avoid abuse.

Quote from: Helena Yu on Today at 04:09:39 AM

Is the reason to add more merit sources to only help users to rank up? I don't think so. I prove you wrong if we lack of merit sources, I was lack of 7 merits to rank up to Hero rank and after I posted my unmerited posts, then I already achieve Hero rank a day later.

Then if not so why are they giving people merits and why are receiving much volume of merits to toil with it or to hodl it back for themselves or to share among the higher people? Common, I don't basically mean is to give newbies or helps those that wanna rank, but at least is another cool way to justify those that are creative in the forum while those who are merits source share across to those post that worth it. Note I am not enforcing on theymos or to any one here but to share something if the system will be fine and nothing much, or how do you feels apply to become merits source and your application is pending for over 2 years without even speaking out his mind to know why he is not adding or removing, even adjust those that are inactive.

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on Today at 05:28:34 AM

You are very sensitive, OP. The forum is not a kindergarten. If a person cannot, then it is he who needs to try harder and not pat him on the head and wipe his snot.

You are absolutely correct my dear sister from another country..
But we must know that forum is a bit tough though but with the help everyone will be happy, I don't have any interest to gain or lose anything if this is not implement but everyone should be involved in the freedom of the forum. If I could recall, the forum sole purpose is freedom and awareness of bitcoin across the globe, so everyone should have that freedom to enjoy everything that comes from bitcoin and it's forum, but this doesn't mean spam and Plagiarism should be tolerated or poorly account should be given this requirements.

Quote from: FatFork on Today at 07:41:38 AM

This would add complexity to the merit system without a clear benefit, and making things more complicated doesn't always help. If someone has already put in the effort to get 450-470 merits, they likely understand the value of contributing quality content and probably knows why good posts matter. Perhaps we could explore ways to streamline the merit source application process, or even consider alternative ways to earn merits that encourage ongoing engagement with the forum.

That is the reason why we should brainstorm together to solve the complexity problem I also understand the magnitude of this but should be a way to reduce this complication issues. Maybe it could be lowered to 480 to achieve Hero rank let just say 20% away from the next rank including all ranks except member rank since 10 merits is easily to be earned around here within 120 days of joining the forum. My alternative is clear those who are not active as merits source and replaced those who are active, this including remove those mod that active in some boards and replace them with people are actives.

Quote from: m2017 on Today at 07:59:45 AM

It seems like discussions about ~~misallocated~~ merits and ~~an unfair~~ merit system will never stop on this forum. And also, attempts to improve this system from low ranks.

Quote from: SmartGold01 on March 27, 2024, 10:59:21 PM

At this point theymos can set the system whereby if you gained 70 to 80 merits the system should automatically credit you 20 to 30 merits instantly without having to apply for merits counts down

The merit system works and many users have proven this by their advancement through the ranking system. If you can't do it or are progressing slowly, then you are doing something wrong.

There is wrong with me neither I mine in eager to move to the next rank rather just bringing an idea to see if that could be settled, however like as I said above I have nothing to gain or lose but, this should expand to other users not only you and I who has managed to be at the top. I love the system and I am not finding it difficult to grow but also putting others in consideration, come to think of it how was your journey when you started here was smooth or slow? It is very hard starting from scratch than already being at the top just like you and I.