Quote from: paxmao on Today at 02:37:28 PM

Quote from: DaRude on Today at 01:24:13 PM

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Despite being in a worse position after $278B commitment (failed counter-offensive, no air defense left, shortages in equipment and personnel on the front lines, and destroyed power generation capacity), by cutting support by almost half from what it was in 2022, that will now somehow be "sufficient amount to implement the strategy I think the US wants implemented"? Did i understand your point correctly?

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ergo, this is about keeping Ruzzia at war for as long as it takes

I agree with this, only for some reason despite everything that is happening you appear to think that Ukraine can somehow outlast this? Or did i misunderstood you and you now feel that Ukraine is just collateral damage in the game to demilitarizing Russia a bit more, thus why we support but not sending F16s position?

And you theory on US not having any downside and only being a benefactor, conveniently completely ignores China, and that having printer go Brrrr causes inflation, which causes internal issues.

No you do not. You are completely missing the point: The US is demilitarising Ruzzia and selling more weapons than ever to everyone. Ukraine is ok with doing the job in exchange for keep being a free independent Ukraine. Ukraine can keep fighting for years. It will take you around couple of years to realize what is happening - like a slowly boiling frog - and even then you will not admit it. It does not matter, is equally real.

Ukraine is in a better position than early in the war: Ruzzia cannot replenish tanks, missiles or ship at the rate these are being lost or used. From having no air defence, Ukraine now has the platforms and the trained people while additional patriots & other are now approved - including a few from Europe. Ukrainian pilots are nearly completely trained in the F16 and several of these are arriving from Europe and possibly US.

Ukraine has developed long range drones that can hit even in Karelia. I do not think you are following the events, but Ruzzia has relocated the strategic bombers to a base in Karelia because they are no longer safe anywere else near Ukraine and they cannot build more.

BTW check you math, 60B is only from US and only for now. You are not counting on EU and others help. In two years 22 to 24, US sent 70B only.

I am not ignoring China (now in a crisis) nor inflation by printing. There are many risks, as there are many potential opportunities, for now what matters is that 100 republicans voted yes to aid, which may give you a glimpse of what the future could look like.

"You are completely missing the point: The US is demilitarising Ruzzia and selling more weapons than ever to everyone." Somebody posts something that says Russia is being demilitarized by the US. But Russia is buying US military stuff from everybody else on the black market. This is part of the reason why Russia isn't worrying about Ukraine. They have reverse engineered all of the US stuff, and they are building better.

Russia's drones can go everywhere in Ukraine, anytime Russia decides to send them. Ukraine is dead.

The more money the US sends to Ukraine and elsewhere, the more devalued it becomes. The USD might be worth only half the value of what it was at the start of the war. Sending more money will only devalue it more, until people everywhere start serious trading with gold and silver... which China and Russia are stockpiling for BRICS.

How do we know this? US banks are stockpiling gold and silver, but are way behind China and Russia.

Ukraine? Simply a byword. They're gone. That's why Russia is moving into places like Niger, Africa, while the US is moving out. Soon Niger will be manufacturing Russian military arms, and making Big Bucks doing it. Then only the Russians living in Russian towns will care about Ukrainian droning. Make the Russian people mad enough, and they will simply overrun what's left of Ukraine without the help of or orders from the Russian government.

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