Quote from: mindrust on Today at 04:55:29 PM

Quote from: franky1 on Today at 12:24:48 PM

let wait a few years for black hat to have a real revelation
money is not fungible
money does not have to be fungible
blackhat just thinks a narrow path that fits whatever he is promoting
2 people working the same job same hours same location.. one only needs to work 40 minutes for $10, the other works an hour for $10
walking between 2 shops on same major road. $2 can buy a whole loaf of bread, however a mile away that same $2 wont be enough to buy a whole loaf of same brand bread, same day within 20 minutes..
money does not mean the same value to different people
heck even someone receiving $100 from a relative on their birthday is treated differently by the tax man than someone receiving $100 from a days income from work. or $100 in investment gains from a investment sell
1btc to someone in a icelandic/slavic region is worth $25k of mining cost
1btc to someone in the pacific island regions is worth $110k of mining cost
1btc to the market traders is worth $67k
someone would prefer to mine a fresh mined coin for a premium than receive mixed coin even at discount

You are not more informed than blackhat on this matter sadly. Do you know what is more dangerous than being uninformed? Being half-informed.

Money is fungible. It is because money is a commodity. Every commodity can become money. Rice, tobacco, coffee, water, gold, copper... Some are obviously more practical than the others. Gold coins are definitely more practical than water for example. Commodities are fungible.

FIAT is not money. It is a currency. (It used to be money when it was backed by gold, a commodity. Now it is backed by nothing.) That's the difference between a gold coin and a dollar bill. One of them is money, the other one is currency. Bitcoin? Bitcoin is close to be money because it is "fungible-ish". It is not fungible. "Fungible-ish", means its position can change from situation to situation. In the USA, it is not really fungible. In Russia? It is fungible probably since no Russian business will care.

If you can sell you hacked coin to some careless or uninformed people, it is fungible for you because people like blackhat will take these coins without thinking about the consequences of their actions. How many of those people are there? Definitely not as many as blackhat thinks. Maybe he doesn't live in EU or USA where people get punished for that kind of stuff.

blackhat pretends to not care about taint... but he does care.. thats why he thinks mixers are needed

also you have things the wrong way
fiat is money
anything can be currency
currency is a broad term which has sub categories: money(legal tender), asset, commodity
money WAS a commodity when backed by gold. because gold is a commodity

also if you want to be informed learn the word fungible
commodity is closer features of fungible. such as all wheat on the commodity market is treated as the same quality/product
however money is not fungible

take some real world experiments
if you had a $100 bank note. and some stranger came upto you and said "nice bank note, can i have it.. i have here a $100 you can have"
the initial REALISTIC response is not to just say yes. but instead in the real world you would question what that strangers motives are and you would presume his bank note is dodgy as he seems a little too eager to get your note but relinquish his own so easily

so people dont treat things equally, they do question the other persons holding

if btc was truly fungible (in your definition) there would be no reason for mixers
now ask yourself why do you and blackhat need mixers.. i dont need the answer but ask yourself and be honest to yourself