Quote from: Troytech on April 30, 2024, 09:30:47 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 30, 2024, 05:42:53 PM

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Diversification can be a tricky idea for newbies making them feel that theu have better luck for progress or to be rich by putting their eggs in several basket but also making them forget that the more you invest the more profit you should expect if eventually the asset does well, when it comes to bitcoint its has become so obvious that if you don't have a good stash or have not accumulated enough bitcoin then you should bother less about any price increase.

I am not sure if you are saying that correctly... because sometimes for newbies diversification is a kind of security blanket of not really knowing what they are investing into, and so yeah, sure most people don't know, and even people who invest into bitcoin, sometimes do not really know, so even though some of us might say to stop fucking around with shitcoins, there can be a perception that the bitcoiners are biased and we are merely pumping our bags.. .. so there is some kind of need to build some kind of a conviction in regards to the asset in which we are investing, so frequently if there is doubt about bitcoin, then there is going to be receptivity to both the shitcoin talking points, but also shitcoiners will also frequently be pushing the benefits of diversifying just in case bitcoin does not work or that some of the shitcoins might perform better than bitcoin and/or various other talking points, which frequently will sound convincing to a newbie.. including the "need to have an open mind".

Quote from: Troytech on April 30, 2024, 09:30:47 PM

And what those that think about diversification too early forgets to consider is if they can handle diversification, yeah surely there are some persons that are already well built in terms of finance and have enough money to both funds investing in bitcoin and another asset without cheating his bitcoin investment and there is also another that has only enough for one asset and if he tries to diversify would end up cheating bitcoin, and surely people tend to forget that the game of getting rich is all about concentration in the sence i mean having enough in one asset that would be able to generate profits for you and then you can use that profit to build other asset.

I agree. It is better for people who are starting out with a relatively small amount to build one first before adding anything else, and there likely is no rush to add anything else, but there may be some need to balance cash amounts with the bitcoin amounts in order to figure out levels of aggressiveness in regards to how fast to attempt to accumulate a sizable bitcoin position... and yeah, some folks might not have options to establish a sizable position in less than 5 years and some of them might take closer to 10 years before they start to feel they start to need to diversify... but yeah, a person can become more informed about himself and his preferences to diversify while he is building his bitcoin investment.. and he might not know exactly in advance when he is going to start to feel needs to spread out his investments a bit more.

Quote from: Troytech on April 30, 2024, 09:30:47 PM

IMO while diversification may be good it's not the best for anyone just starting out his bitcoin investment cause he should only focus on having enough bitcoin to prepare for up and then if it goes well he woul ld have enough to build other asset.

Sure.. There are going to be questions (or calculations) regarding how much he puts into the investment and then how much the investment grows (if at all).. so the amount of growth in the investment could also affect his decision in regards to how to treat it or whether to reallocate or to let it ride or even whether to put new cash into bitcoin versus perhaps identifying some other place to put new cash in order to feel more comfortable.

Quote from: Lidger on May 01, 2024, 04:04:03 AM

Initially I had a lot of trouble to understand about such investments and DCA investments but after regularly watching the discussions in this section and working according to those discussions, I now understand the concepts of DCA investments very clearly. I am investing in DCA investment method and continue to invest and I hope that in the future I will definitely learn something good from the discussions of JayJuanGee who regularly discuss in this section and my ideas will be more clear.

Sure you might be learning from reading, but if you are actually actively trying to put the DCA and other money management ideas into action including figuring out your own budget and making sure that you do not overly spend your discretionary income, then you are likely going to learn a lot more by putting these kinds of ideas into practice and seeing how it works for you, and surely some folks should be making sure that they start out with small amounts so that they realize that they are not going to have access to that invested money for 4-10 years or longer, and so as they get used to setting aside such money, then they might start to feel more comfortable to increase the amounts and it might not be as shocking if they have already gotten used to the idea of not dipping into their investment and just continuing to add to it, whether it is currently in profits or not.

Quote from: Wind_FURY on May 01, 2024, 07:24:12 AM

OK, the DIP is coming and it's NOW the time for YOU to PAY ATTENTION. For those who employ a DCA strategy, it's probably a good decision to start making your purchases bigger. For those who employ a Buy the DIP strategy, start placing your bids NOW. Currently, the 200-Weekly Simple Moving Average is at $34,200. Will it touch that line again? Probably not, but near that line has always been a good buying opportunity.

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Well, the 200-WMA currently is moving up at a pace that is right around 40% per year, and so it can slow down in its appreciation rate or it can go up faster if the BTC price goes up faster, and so for sure the BTC spot price is going to get close to the 200-WMA again and perhaps even go below it, yet it is difficult to expect the BTC spot price to get within 25% above the 200-WMA or lower within the next 12-18 months.. (even though right at this moment, the BTC price is ONLY around 68% higher than the 200-WMA - see here).

Never say never, but we should be careful in terms of any kind of overexpectations in regards to BTC price correction that might not end up going as low as we might expect them to go.