Quote from: Vod on Today at 03:41:20 PM

Quote from: Ringwallet on Today at 04:43:06 AM

I'm just upset because you keep saying things like "you lied" or "you make promises" etc; when we haven't lied about anything, we haven't made promises and there is nothing for people to buy/spend money on. The absolute best they can do is sign up for a waitlist with an email. That's literally it.

I feel I was lied to. The OP said he was going to assure me, and when I asked for it, he ignored me. I have an issue with people who do that.

Do you think it's harder to scam someone once they are on a mailing list? Why do you keep using that as a defense?

Quote from: Ringwallet on Today at 04:43:06 AM

I will provide the US entity details as soon as they are out. But I do expect an apology afterwards.

That would be the mature thing to do.

What do you mean he said he was going to assure you and then ignored you? I literally answered everything you asked and provided you the company details as you requested; how were you ignored? Is it because I answered instead of Christian; how does that even matter? I specifically offered, to provide anything necessary to prove we're legit, including inviting you or somebody you send to our physical office, do a video call etc.

You asked for answers to the questions in the thread (all sent)
You asked for company details (already sent; if you're going to mention US entity, again, it's the exact same thing and as mentioned in my first post, before you even asked, it's not yet out, when it is I'll share those too)
And finally you said we should provide partners instead of a waitlist, but we launched less than 30 days ago so naturally we don't have some big name partners to publish yet, even though we are having discussions with some companies who could be a good fit.

In regards to "why I keep using the mailing list a a defense"

First of all, you accused us of potentially scamming people of their money, and I specifically mentioned there is literally no way for anyone to send us any kind of money. So this was in response to that.

Second of all, you are free to sign up to the mailing list with a temp mail. It's a newsletter man. What did you think it is? Because you're asking me if it's harder to scam someone after they're on the mailing list but I genuinely don't get it. We came here to get feedback and the best a user could do right now to interact with the company is just sign up for the newsletter / waitlist; we've currently only sent a welcome email and that's it.

My only problem with this entire rhetoric is twofold:
1. You accuse of potentially scamming people but there's literally no way for anyone to pay us in any form.
2. You keep changing the goalposts.

You said answer the questions -> they were answered. Then you said provide me company details -> we did. Then you said now provide me US details (when I specifically mentioned it's not out yet). Then you said we are trying to steal money -> there's no way for people to send any money. Now you're saying it's easier to scam people with the waitlist/newsletter; but what would we be even scamming them with? Also, again, you can just sign up to it with a free temp-mail online, in case we actually do send anything that can be considered a scam you can screenshot it and prove this, no? I literally have no problem with skepticism, I'm just upset because you keep accusing of things even though we repeatedly tried to offer you the different things you asked for.

You then said we lied; and even said so in the trustpilot review. When I asked you how we lied, you now said you "feel" you were lied to because the OP said he would assure you and then ignored you, but that's objectively not true, I've been answering your questions non-stop. What, is it just because I'm answering the questions instead of Christian? Because that makes no sense.

So look, just listen to me for a second. We're open to criticism and feedback, that's what we came here for in the first place. I genuinely wish to get true customer insight and understand what we can do better. I'm open to providing details, information or whatever else is necessary to prove we're just trying to build something. Sure, we're not some big corporation, but I don't think that's a crime; what, is building startups exclusive to rich people? I don't think so.

Literally all that I'm asking you is to just stop throwing accusations. If you want to know something, just tell me what, and I will do my best to answer. But I don't see the point of continuing to insinuate we're scammers at every point when I've genuinely done my best to answer all your concerns to date.