Quote from: masulum on Today at 04:50:42 PM

Quote from: Plaguedeath on Today at 01:57:59 PM

I feel bad for Dortmund's fans.

Dortmund take the first position in Group F among PSG, Newcastle and Milan, people said they're lucky.
Dortmund beat PSV, people said they're lucky.
Dortmund beat Atletico Madrid, yet people said they're lucky.
Dortmund beat PSG, once again people said they're lucky.
Now if Dortmund can beat Real Madrid, people will say same, they're lucky. Cheesy

I would say if it's happen f
or one or two times, it's correct it might be lucky. But it's already four times, Dortmund really put their effort to win the match.

Dortmund is considered lucky by most people because its opponents were in inconsistent positions in the group phase, Milan and Newcastle. However, when they were in the quarter-finals, this actually proved that it was not just luck that they qualified, but that they deserved to be at this level. Indeed, in the final the chances are very small, but that doesn't mean it's impossible. If Dortmund can win this match, I agree with you, those who think Dortmund is lucky will make the same comments. So, no matter what they think, lucky or not, Dortmund is a threat to Madrid, and they are deserves to go to final. a win is a win, right? lucky or not it's just a perspective.

I personally don't fully agree if they say Dortmund was just lucky even though indeed, at that time Milan, Newcastle and Atletico position were also in a difficult situation in the domestic league. But in reality, Dortmund at that time was also in a bad position in the Bundesliga standings and Dortmund only managed to improve its position in the second half of theseason. In this way, at least the team's situation and condition at that time was considered balanced, because they were still both in difficult situations and conditions.

But regarding the semifinal match against PSG, in reality PSG was already in a safe position in the Ligue 1 standings, while Dortmund was still in competition with Leipzig at that time in the Bundesliga standings. But in reality, PSG also failed to score a goal against Dortmund in the two matches played in the semifinals. With results like that, I don't agree if it is said that Dortmund was just lucky,because this result is ofcourse because Dortmund make to the best efforts.