Quote from: stompix on Today at 10:50:36 AM

-the majority here, here on bitcointalk!, doesn't know what a spv wallet is, how fees work, how to use damn coin control

The majority of people don't know why Bitcoin is useful and important, so let's stop working and recommending it, please! There you go, am I clever now too?

Quote from: stompix on Today at 10:50:36 AM

This is exactly wunderwaffe material, you're not seeing the reality from your bunker, and there will be no usage left whatsoever if things don't get done fast!

So, let me get this straight. You believe we need to implement changes quickly and pursue vertical scaling (i.e., increasing block size), despite its obvious long-term flaws, instead of utilizing one of the many altcoins that have already adopted this approach?

Allow me to clarify. You believe we should quickly implement changes to a trillion-dollar asset, which serves as the cornerstone of a new monetary system, simply because you dislike waiting for alternative second-layer solutions to be developed. Could you explain why not using an altcoin instead?

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 04:13:38 PM

You're saying there may not be enough demand to fill 10 MB blocks. I'm saying the lack of demand may be because it's currently impractical to use. As they say: "fix the money, fix the world"!

Let's look at the closest evidence we have to verify this claim: altcoins.

- Bitcoin Cash is the Bitcoin fork I'd use if I was forbidden from using Bitcoin. Total transactions in the last 24 hours: 14,546. Block size limit: 32 MB, block interval: 10 minutes.
- Total Litecoin transactions in the last 24 hours: 181,694. Block size limit: 1 MB, every 2.5 minutes. (in 10 minutes: 4 MB)
- Total Dogecoin transactions in the last 24 hours: 62,270. Block size limit: 1 MB, once a minute. (in 10 minutes: 10 MB)

Total Bitcoin transactions in the last 24 hours: 862,464. If high on-chain capacity is what the world wants, then we should expect them to have migrated, and do more on-chain transactions there. It's clearly not the case, though.

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 04:13:38 PM

My worry goes deeper: can it be a monetary standard if it can't be used by normal people?

It can be used. It's just not suitable for everyday transactions on-chain. That's exactly what I would imagine a new, stronger monetary standard to look like. Broadcast your transaction to the open public only when necessary, not for for when buying coffees.

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 04:13:38 PM

How do you see Bitcoin in 20 years, if the majority of users can only "own" Bitcoin on a CEX or ETF?

Who said they cannot have their own space in the chain?

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 04:13:38 PM

I like Monero, but I don't think it can scale to many more transactions.

It probably can't. You can't have the cake and eat it too. You either accept the tradeoffs of the fixed-sized block, or the ones of the dynamical-sized.