Quote from: Branko on Today at 08:39:59 AM

Quote from: paxmao on May 25, 2024, 09:44:18 PM

It is very simple - NATO is not an aggressive alliance.

Quote from: LTU_btc on May 25, 2024, 07:50:34 PM

If West already decided to help Ukraine, they should give what is needed for Ukraine, not something what is enough just to defend and keep current positions. But no, West don't want escalation, they want to weaken Russia, but don't want their humiliating defeat. Time doesn't work in favour of Ukraine, war is going for almost 2.5 years and every day of this war costs lives of Ukrainians.
When Ukraine started hitting Russian oil refineries and West were negative about it, their reaction says a lot for me.

I told that long ago.
You should look at this war as geopolitical game, not through child eyes as fight between good and evil

UK and USA cheer every dead Ukrainian as well as dead Russian...both are gain for them

WW2 was same

Noone is your friend in geopolitics...UK and USA will bomb you 20y from now if they can and its profitable,
same as they did to their friend and ally Saddam

I think that the US simply wants Ruzzia to self-demilitarise. There are many reasons for it, all advantageous to US. Ukrainians want an independent country. There are many historic an practical reasons for this interest.

Both are collaborating in their mutual goals and seem to be getting at least a decent result. The more Ruzzia self-demilitarises and self-destroys its economy, the safer is the future of Ukraine and Europe and the better placed is the US to face China.

Europe and US do not "cheer" anything. It is curious how you can at the same time say that you should be using an "adult approach" that this is not "good and evil"... and then decide that this is about race or cultures or hate.

Like any other people in the world, European people wishes prosperity and most European countries have built the EU to get together and solve problems without wars. It only took two world wars and the destruction of half Europe to get there. How long will it take for Ruzzia to give a chance to peace? perhaps never?