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Quote from: Smilevictorobinna on Today at 06:48:33 AM

While doing push ups and build those muscles we need to consider nutrition in other to achieve those desired muscles, certain foods can help build our muscles, replenish nutrients, avoid fatigue, recover from training and maintaining their energy levels.

I will list some foods that my doctor listed for me that can help while doing this push up in other to achieve our goals properly.
This food I'm about to list contains protein to help someone build muscle. and they are.

Turkey
A cup of chopped turkey contains 37.23 g of protein, while a turkey drumstick contains nearly 27 g of protein.
Like chicken, turkey is a low fat protein source that is adaptable to different meals and recipes.

Why Turkey and chicken rather than pork, beef, lamb, organ meats and/or other kinds of meats - including fatty meats? What is wrong with fatty meats? Do you believe that low fat diets actually are a good thing? (especially when it comes to animal fats?)

Yeah, I can understand avoiding some kinds of fats, such as various kinds of artificially created fats like seed oils. but being steered towards turkey and chicken as the main nutritious land-based meats seems problematic.

Quote from: Smilevictorobinna on Today at 06:48:33 AM

Cottage cheese
Part-skimmed cottage cheese contains 14 g of protein per half-cup.
Cottage cheese is also rich in calcium for healthy bones.

Why skimmed? Why not full fat and/or raw? Yeah, there is a preference for processed.. and yeah, there is a propaganda against fats.

Quote from: Smilevictorobinna on Today at 06:48:33 AM

Salmon
A 227 g salmon steak contains 58.5 gTrusted Source of protein.
Salmon also contains omega-3 fatty acids, which have health benefits, including preventing muscle loss in older adults.

I agree that salmon is probably pretty good, especially if referring to natural fats that it has.. yet is there a problem with other fish and seafood? yes we have some potential mercury problems and even farm raised with some of the various kinds of seafood.

Quote from: Smilevictorobinna on Today at 06:48:33 AM

Milk
Skimmed or 1% fat milk contains 8 g of protein per 8 oz, and high protein milk contains 13 g of protein per 8 oz.
As long as individuals tolerate milk, it can be a healthy choice to boost protein and hydration after exercise.
Milk also contains calcium which people require for healthy bones.

again, why low fat? why processed? Why not raw? I know raw has been vilified all around the world, and I am rarely consuming raw dairy based on the same kinds of difficulties in obtaining it..

Quote from: Smilevictorobinna on Today at 06:48:33 AM

Eggs
A boiled or poached egg contains 6.28 g of protein.
Eggs contain the amino acid leucine, which research indicates is essential for muscle synthesis.
Eggs are also a suitable source of B vitamins that people need to produce energy.

At least you seem to be referring to the whole egg.. I am not sure if it needs to be cooked or how it is cooked matters so long as it is the whole egg, and some folks get into the egg white nonsense.. again issues with the yolk which is probably the most nutritious part of the egg... .. but yeah, probably in the end eating both the yolk and the eggwhites together would be a good thing no matter how that is accomplished.. and probably grass, bug fed and naturally free range chickens have better eggs than grain fed chickens, though surely all eggs likely have decent nutritiousness.

Quote from: Smilevictorobinna on Today at 06:48:33 AM

Chicken
A medium chicken breast without skin weighing 120 g contains 35.5 g of protein.
Chicken without the skin is a low fat protein source that someone can easily add to different meals and recipes.

Again. look at your nonsense about a preference for low fat.. including which parts of the chicken that you are choosing.. surely there is some bad propaganda weaved into this advice that you are giving and relying on a supposed expert of a doctor, which surely I would question doctors in terms of their abilities to give nutritional advice, especially if they are getting schooled under some of the nonsense standards of care ideas around fat phobias and the various wrongness angles of the heart-lipid hypothesis that involve recommending against saturated fats and pushing artificial/substitute fats instead of acknowledging the nutritional benefits/advantages in various natural fats (including animal fats and saturated fats that are included in those) - including attempting to suggest that there is healthiness that can be found in processed foods - including overly allowance of carbs to substitute for meats and the pumping of various plant based proteins that sometimes substitute for meats, which likely has some of its own problems with the various plant-based protein products.. around soy, corn, wheat and perhaps some other attempts at protein substitutes and other ways to fill foods with inferior ingredients in the name of science (and surely profits too).

Quote from: Smilevictorobinna on Today at 06:48:33 AM

Now I will love us to please eat healthy especially now we are part of this pushups challenge, we all need a variety of protein sources and amino acids to build muscle during training, so please let's all encourage ourselves every day.

#eatinghealthy.
100k,smilevictorobinna,39,3900,2024-05-29

Yes.. eating "healthy" is a good idea; however, if you are spouting out wrong talking points about what is healthy, then that may well end up NOT being so great, even though there could be some truth that some aspects of your low fat baloney might still have some advantages at least if there could be some agreement that eating natural foods is likely more healthy than processed foods or that there are several advantages to stay away from complex carbohydrates (referring to high sugar products).. but still you seem to be lacking in some of your attempt to figure out what is the difference between healthy and not healthy and just spewing out some standards of care talking points that have a lot of disinformation within them that seem to be linked to wrong-thinking about the heart-lipid hypothesis and perhaps an overly allowance of processed foods.. even though your specific recommendations do not seems to specifically go down that road..

Quote from: Cossyblack on Today at 08:59:07 AM

Quote from: Smilevictorobinna on Today at 06:48:33 AM

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....... I know a lot of people here are faking their pushups exercise and might not know the value of eating protein during training nor take this Post very serious

First, how do you know "a lot of guys are faking their pushups?"

Second, how do you define "a lot".. more than 10%, which would be around 4 guys in this particular instance of our currently having 40 pushers who are included in the table? Or are you referring to guys outside of the table too?

Third, is the lessen about the value of eating protein? I am not disagreeing with that, but then what other aspects of our diets might we consider? you have any ideas/opinions about fats? what about other stuff? Do you consider that just eating proteins is the key or what else might be going on in terms of diet?.. so yeah the three components of diet, sleep and exercise.. and surely pushups could cover exercise to the extent that there might be other kinds of exercises (or activities) that might be weaved (and vary) into the lifestyles of guys who are currently participating in these pushups..

Fourth.. maybe another side point in regards to considering that not even a lot of guys seem to be participating in these pushups.. or participating in this thread... if currently, we have 40 guys on the table, and how many guys who are not on the table but still may well be participating.. maybe only 10 or perhaps we could have up to an additional 20 guys who might be sporadically doing pushups or who had been doing some of these pushups at various points since this thread started nearly 4 months ago, so it might be really difficult to end up getting up to 100 guys to submit reports in order to end up on the table...

Fifth, getting back to the faker idea, surely it may well be better if they were not fakers, but I would consider quite difficult to verify, so why get worked up about it.. or even presume faking to be a predominant and/or prevalent phenomena.... and if we might confirm someone as an actual faker and we have evidence or the logic of the story does not add up, then what should we do about it?.. If we were to end up having a certain percent as pushup fakers, then maybe we would need some extra non-fakers to make up for the existence of fakers... Maybe there could be a label of "suspected faker?" even though I am not sure how helpful that would end up being or how we might differentiate the ones we consider to be fakers from the non-fakers.

Quote from: Cossyblack on Today at 08:59:07 AM

but I must advice those who are not faking theirs to start eating healthy.This is why I love this forum because i keep learning new and important things everyday.

Do you consider the latest dietary recommendation post of what Smilevictorobinna posted as being a good way to think about what kind of eating is "healthy?" or do you have any other thoughts on the framing of what might be considered to be "healthy" eating. Surely, I am not going to deny that some aspects of what Smilevictorobinna mentioned might well be considered as reasonably healthy, but there are a lot of problematic presumptions contained in both what he said and even that he is proclaiming that what he said might be more valid since it is coming from a "doctor," which I am not even going to assert that a large number of doctors would not say such a thing, since a lot of them are actually spouting out various standards of care talking points about healthy living that are likely influenced by interests that may well not be as scientific as they claim to be and also not as concerned about our actual health as they claim to be.

Quote from: philipma1957 on Today at 05:01:10 PM

I am older and my exercise for this seems to be good cardio. But 20 minutes 1 a day should be all the cardio I need at 67 years old.

276 steps in 9 minutes and still climbing higher

I surely may be repeating myself, but likely there is nothing wrong with that, especially since I think that there is an important point to be made in regards to what might be considered similar or not similar to pushups.. .. which I would think that there should be some attempt to stay within the spirit of the pushup to the extent possible... while at the same time, I recognize that some of us are likely going to have differing opinions regarding what is similar to the pushup and what is not.. so for example, some things are surely not close to the pushup, such as trying to take 100 sips of coffee per day, and so there may well be some areas that are not disputed as much, and surely there is some aspects of stairs that might be similar to pushups in terms of their lifting the body up but surely using a different part of the body.. mostly legs.. but the way you seem to be doing them seems to be more of a cardio thing (as you even admit), and I was getting the sense that your earlier planks were somewhat closer to pushups at least in the sense of having the core strength element contained therein and there might be some aspects of arms and chest that could be within planks depending on how they are done (in terms of position that might be attempted to be held.. whither using arms and even putting pressures on shoulders and/or chest).

At the same time, I still believe that the spirt of the idea of pushups is not very much focused on cardio, even though surely there are some cardio components to doing pushups... and there could be some emphasis on the cardio component of pushups when someone is trying to do high reps and low weights (and maybe even modifying pushups in that way), even though it may also be difficult to avoid a certain amount of strength spect that seems to be a part of most pushups even if they might be modified and attempted to do with quantity and speed... so to me, pushups are not really so much within the cardio category of exercises.

Also, another area of repetition may well be to say that the older that we get, the more likely that we need to attempt to gravitate towards resistance and strength training since we tend to lose muscle mass as we age and cardio focused exercises would not be helping us out very much in regards to an area that we really need to attempt to safeguard both the loss of muscle mass and potentially even some needs to try to build some muscle mass, even though some of that may also be difficult to accomplish through cardio and also without specifically trying to pay attention to the way that we might be attempting to focus our exercises, especially as we get older..

And yeah philip you old duck, none of us an avoid the fact that each of us is getting older, and even recognizing and/or appreciating that it can be quite difficult to either get into some routine that attempts to emphasize resistance training and not to overly slip into temptations to do cardio. which surely seems to be a quite common error.. and surely even some guys here (including uie-pooie) might not even agree with this assertion that I am making, but you are not going to find me backing down from it, even if you want to argue that "cardio is better than nothing," which I would not disagree regarding that assertion, even while I continue to proclaim that all elderly and getting older folks likely need to attempt to have some various forms of resistance training in their routine if they want to try to lessen some of the body's aging tendencies to lose muscle mass and to become more and more difficult to build muscle mass.

Quote from: CoinMin3r on Today at 05:23:36 PM

Concluded 50 for today but I took more time to finish with sets of 25 and more rest time as i had other work to do plus usual dumbbell presses. But I'm enjoying at the same time even after being exhausted.
Reporting for fourth day.
100k,CoinMin3r,4,200,2024-05-29

I am glad to see your participation in this thread CoinMin3r, and I saw from one of your other posts that you have been in bitcoin for nearly 10 years.. . which surely is shown by your forum registration date.. and yeah, if you had been more of a reader than a participant in the forum, then maybe you might have had been missing out on a lot of potential with the forum, and there still could be good things for you to get more actively involved in various aspects of the forum - even though a quick review of your account I see various shitcoin participation and even gambling, but still, there might be areas in which you can participate and maybe we can argue about if you might start to figure out the value of bitcoin and even the value of long term investing rather than fucking around with shitcoins.. at some point... perhaps? perhaps?.. but I also understand that sometimes it can be more difficult for some of the members who have English as their non-native language to really feel comfortable with batting around some of the bitcoin-specific topics that are in English.

Oh, and regarding your pushups, I understand that you might not have time to do a lot of sets in a day, but there may well be ways to increase your pushups by doing fewer per set and doing 3-5 sets per day.. and then working your way up to higher numbers of pushups per day. Yes, I understand that any of us are likely going to be sore in the first month or two doing pushups, and the older we are the more likely that our recovery times might be longer too.. but yeah, I also understand that some guys might have schedules that don't really allow them to do very many pushup sets in a day.. and even sometimes I get into so activities that make it more difficult for me to fit in some pushups..

Thank you so much for all your corrections but those things I wrote down was a list given to me by a health professional who studied in the university in other to get health knowledge, and I also did some research to be very sure about the list he gave me and low and behold it was correct so I don't know were you are getting your information from, unless you are a health professional I will advise you stop criticizing some of the foods in the list.
I just called my friend who also studied nutrition and I showed him the list and he approved it also, so it will be best you give tell us your source that told you some of those food listed are not good for the purpose I mentioned.