Quote from: B2Z on Today at 11:20:37 AM

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Quote from: royalfestus on June 03, 2024, 11:56:52 PM

Quote from: red4slash on June 03, 2024, 08:41:00 PM

Indirectly we can conclude that in the end trading is no better and even very much more risky than investing so we don't need to think too much about trading because sooner or later you will also lose in trading so by seeing that switch to investing without having to look at trading.
In addition, it seems that the discussion of trading will not be too connected when juxtaposed with the previous discussion because from the beginning we always discuss about investment not trading.
I don't want to assume they are bad traders but indeed with your narrative we also actually need to realize that doing trading especially for those people who are new to bitcoin and just learning the investment system, it will indeed be misleading because in the end investing and trading are different things and cannot be put together in a discussion.

Holding is the most profitable form of investment in cryptocurrency, but not everyone can or should hold. Trading has its place in the cryptocurrency market and should be encouraged and supported. Exchanges rely on daily trading for market manipulation and understanding the psychology of demand and supply. If trading isn't your strength, focus on what you believe in and let traders do their work. Ultimately, at some point, we all will be trading our coins.

Basically, Bitcoin is considered to be different from all other cryptocurrencies because of its different acceptance and potential for higher returns for investors. Whereas other crypto shitcoins are mostly hype. Of course shitcoin can expose you to a lot of risk so it should not be held for long. In terms of investing, the value of Bitcoin can fluctuate and fall to zero, but you should aim for a long-term depositing plan. By holding bitcoins you can keep your investment risk level relatively mitigated only for the long term. You can choose short term trading with your hard earned capital which is your freedom but I think long term tending to accumulate bitcoins can be a better plan.
Suppose you buy bitcoins with your lump sum and decide to sell or withdraw during a relatively bearish period and a month or two later in an uptrend. Yes you can definitely make some profit with trading. But that Bitcoin may not bounce back to the downside in the bullish period which is again a long line in your case. But if you have a long term management plan of DCA or lump sum purchase then you can expect more multiples of profit. Holding.

If we invest in Bitcoin in wrong place then surely we will not get much profit from that Bitcoin investment so we should be right.

it seams your explanation is a kind of confusing, investing bitcoin in a wrong place ? if what you are trying to say Is that investing in an asset that is less volatile than bitcoin is a wrong investment then you are right. for now bitcoin is the most volatile assets that needs to be invested before considering other assets. Bitcoin is the top priority for every investor so we should take the accumulation process seriously.

Quote from: B2Z on Today at 11:20:37 AM

There are many investors in Bitcoin who do not know much about investing who come to invest in Bitcoin they may not realize that they are too hasty and impatient to invest and risk losses.

there is no such person. you are mistaken a gambler or trader for an investor. a true investor always have a motive of investing and HODLing for either a short or long period of time. those short time investors may range from 4 -10 years while the long term investors invest and HODl from 10 to 20 or 30 years. so it's only a gambler will jump into trading for a short term profit and fall into investing in some shitcoins and put the blame on bitcoin. some don't even know the meaning of BITCOIN. so next time when talking about Investment I think you should be specific in your analysis or emphasis.

Quote from: B2Z on Today at 11:20:37 AM

For him I would say before investing in Bitcoin he must gain enough knowledge about Bitcoin then he should invest in Bitcoin.

investing in bitcoin don't really need someone to have a master degree or some high school degree, what they need is to have the basic knowledge on Investment, I have said this often times and would not really need to explain often times. but since here is like a Barack where soldiers comes and go and Barack remain thesame, I will still repeat myself since JJG is not tired I will not also be tired of explaining.

Quote from: B2Z on Today at 11:20:37 AM

I myself love to invest in bitcoin but bitcoin investment can definitely change our fortune if we can patiently invest with long term plan and check the market surely this bitcoin will help us to change our fortune very much.

investing in bitcoin for a longer time is the main point, but don't include checking the market, because checking the market surely explain that you are a trader, because it's only traders that check the ups and downs of the market.

Quote from: B2Z on Today at 11:20:37 AM

As you said sheet coin is more risky than bitcoin. Of course sheet coins are quite risky to invest in. So I will choose bitcoin over sheet coin or I will suggest someone else to choose bitcoin.

better for you to invest in bitcoin than shitcoin. not really "sheet coin" as you spell it

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Quote from: royalfestus on June 03, 2024, 11:56:52 PM

Quote from: red4slash on June 03, 2024, 08:41:00 PM

Indirectly we can conclude that in the end trading is no better and even very much more risky than investing so we don't need to think too much about trading because sooner or later you will also lose in trading so by seeing that switch to investing without having to look at trading.
In addition, it seems that the discussion of trading will not be too connected when juxtaposed with the previous discussion because from the beginning we always discuss about investment not trading.
I don't want to assume they are bad traders but indeed with your narrative we also actually need to realize that doing trading especially for those people who are new to bitcoin and just learning the investment system, it will indeed be misleading because in the end investing and trading are different things and cannot be put together in a discussion.

Holding is the most profitable form of investment in cryptocurrency, but not everyone can or should hold. Trading has its place in the cryptocurrency market and should be encouraged and supported. Exchanges rely on daily trading for market manipulation and understanding the psychology of demand and supply. If trading isn't your strength, focus on what you believe in and let traders do their work. Ultimately, at some point, we all will be trading our coins.

There is no denying that trading is a profitable business. But even if the experienced people are good at trading, the newbies will not get that opportunity. General investor needs to acquire knowledge on various topics before trading.

I guest you are making more references to Trading than investing in Bitcoin and I don't think it's ideal because it may surely be misleading. even though it is a reference, but it needs to be more of accumulating and HODLing than trading.

Quote from: Zackz5000 on Today at 01:22:11 PM

Quote from: royalfestus on June 03, 2024, 11:56:52 PM

Quote from: red4slash on June 03, 2024, 08:41:00 PM

Indirectly we can conclude that in the end trading is no better and even very much more risky than investing so we don't need to think too much about trading because sooner or later you will also lose in trading so by seeing that switch to investing without having to look at trading.
In addition, it seems that the discussion of trading will not be too connected when juxtaposed with the previous discussion because from the beginning we always discuss about investment not trading.
I don't want to assume they are bad traders but indeed with your narrative we also actually need to realize that doing trading especially for those people who are new to bitcoin and just learning the investment system, it will indeed be misleading because in the end investing and trading are different things and cannot be put together in a discussion.

Holding is the most profitable form of investment in cryptocurrency, but not everyone can or should hold. Trading has its place in the cryptocurrency market and should be encouraged and supported. Exchanges rely on daily trading for market manipulation and understanding the psychology of demand and supply. If trading isn't your strength, focus on what you believe in and let traders do their work. Ultimately, at some point, we all will be trading our coins.

Hodling our Bitcoin investment for a longer period of time is most profitable depending on the amount of Bitcoin one has in his portfolio,

not really the amount of bitcoin we have in our portfolio but the amount we have in discretion that can be used to buy Bitcoin on a regular DCA and buying when the price has dipped as a form of dip and HODL.

Quote from: Zackz5000 on Today at 01:22:11 PM

but you should be specific when talking about coin to hodl for there are different coin in the crypto market

that's pretty right, he needs to be specific by talking about Bitcoin investment rather than not talking about it as if it has no direction.