Quote from: gloffs on June 05, 2024, 07:05:48 PM

Quote from: Ozero on June 05, 2024, 01:33:02 PM

Here I would like to draw your attention to the fact that until 1991, when the Ukrainian Republic was proclaimed as an independent sovereign state, Ukraine was not part of Russia. Let me remind you that in December 1922 the USSR was created on the basis of the entry into it of a number of equal republics, including the Ukrainian SSR and the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (RSFSR). This was a voluntary unification of equal republics with the right to voluntarily secede from the USSR. In 1991, Ukraine took advantage of this right. Therefore, it is incorrect to say that Ukraine during the USSR period was part of Russia.

And I would like to draw your attention to the fact that you completely misunderstand the internal structure of the USSR. How and on what basis can you state that Ukraine had a right to voluntarily seceed from the USSR? This is an erroneous opinion.You never lived in the USSR and you don't know what you are talking about.

it is me who was born in the USSR in 1964. I lived quite a large part of my life in the USSR and I know much better than you what the life was like there at that time.

So please don't tell me stories. Ukraine has been populated with very large quantities of Russian people. Ukrainians and Russian people are the same kind of people. My father was a Ukrainian. So I know what I am talking about and you have no right to lecture me on the history of the USSR and Ukraine..

I have to constantly prove that what you write, to put it mildly, is not true.

The right of free secession of each republic from the USSR was enshrined in Article 72 of the 1977 USSR Constitution, which was in force during the period of Ukraine’s secession from the USSR in 1991. This article had only one sentence, namely: “Each union republic retains the right to freely secede from the USSR.”

The specific procedure for the republic’s secession from the USSR was regulated by a separate USSR law dated April 3, 1990 No. 1409-I “On the procedure for resolving issues related to the secession of a union republic from the USSR.” Article 6 of this law states that “the decision to secede of a union republic from the USSR is considered adopted through a referendum if at least two-thirds of the citizens of the USSR who were permanently residing on the territory of the republic at the time the question of its secession from the USSR was raised…”
https://ru.m.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD_%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A0_ %D0%BE%D1%82_04/03/1990_%E2%84%96_1409-I

You are also mistaken that I did not live under the USSR. I even served in military service on the territory of the current Russian Federation and was demobilized a little earlier than you were supposed to be drafted. Therefore, I lived in the USSR for about 30 years and know its “internal structure” well, because I am a lawyer by training and I received this education while still in the USSR.