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What the fuck are you talking about? Every time I talk to you, you cannot have a normal fucking conversation. I don't have to fix anything I don't need your business. You can scurry off back to the casino, I don't care. Likewise what about that is off topic, are you reading?

You just stupid bro, and you need to pack your shit up, because I already explained. The problem is not me explaining, the problem is you are not able to comprehend, because you don't have enough knowledge.

Everything I am saying is flying right past your head. You can't understand what I am saying, so instead, of trying to clarify you are just saying a bunch of shit in your head, you believe, but cannot prove.

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"I'm not gonna have a conversation with you like that" is further proof you know what you're doing is wrong.

Nah, it's further proof you need to show respect to the person you are talking too. And you aren't showing any respect, so I don't respect you. And am not gonna have a conversation with you.

Hey @GluttonyY, I'm not surprised you're getting all defensive and trying to insult me. You're not addressing the real issues with UMG, just trying to distract from the facts.

You say I can't have a normal convo, but that's because you're not listening to my concerns about UMG. You're just trying to shut me down.

You don't need my business? Okay, cool. But I'm still gonna warn others about UMG's shady stuff.

You think I'm stupid? That's rich coming from someone who's promoting a potentially fraudulent platform.

You say I don't know enough? I've done my research, and I'm not afraid to speak out. You're the one who's not providing any real evidence.

You think I'm not getting what you're saying? That's because you're not making any sense. You're just trying to confuse people.

And yeah, I said I'm not gonna have a convo with you like that. That means I'm not gonna engage in a conversation where you're just trying to attack me personally and avoid the real issues.

And now you're saying you're not gonna have a convo with me because I'm not showing respect? That's just a lame excuse. You're not willing to have a real conversation about UMG because you know you can't defend its shady practices.

So, no, I'm not gonna back down. I'll keep speaking out against UMG and warning others about its potential scams. You can keep trying to defend it, but it's clear you're not doing it out of a genuine desire to help people.

When I envision, you I imagine, a child trying to hit me with their weak punches.

'I WONT STAND DOWN I WILL LET PEOPLE KNOW' you sound so silly to me.

Please, care to inform me on the real issues of UMG?

Can you please clarify what the real issues, are please. I am curious. Because you said there was no way a lottery could pay back everything put into it without going bankrupt, and this is false.

A lottery can pay back everything, without going bankrupt.

Please inform us, of the shady practices, other than the name, enlighten me. Amuse me please. What are the shady practices. And what are the problems with the platform.

Now you have me intrigued...

Hey @GluttonyY, let's get to the point.

You're still trying to deflect and attack me personally, but I'm not afraid to speak out against a potentially fraudulent platform.

You ask me to inform you about the real issues of UMG. Um, didn't I already do that in my original post? You can check it out here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951.msg64173097#msg64173097

I pointed out several red flags, including their unrealistic promises, lack of transparency, and shady claims. But I guess you didn't bother to read it or you're just trying to pretend like you didn't see it.

You say a lottery can pay back everything without going bankrupt. Okay, cool. But that's not what UMG is claiming. They're saying they can generate unlimited money with a 99.9% RTP rate. That's just not possible.

And yeah, I'd be happy to enlighten you on the shady practices of UMG. But I already did that in my original post. You can go read it again if you need a refresher.

So, no, I won't be backing down. I'll keep speaking out against UMG and warning others about its potential scams. You can keep trying to defend it, but it's clear you're not doing it out of a genuine desire to help people.

My friend, if I put you in a booming economy, with a source to make money consistently. What the hell, do you call that? An Unlimited Money Generator!

My friend, you having a job in an economy is an UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR. I.E ditec, got a job at mcdonalds, all he has to do is go to work everyday and he gets paid. You do that for free. it is an unlimited money generator, and it cost you your time, which is free. There are many Unlimited Money Generator's you just don't realize it.

UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR IS AN ECONOMY. BECAUSE.......

THE RTP IS 99.9%, THIS MONEY IS NOT LEAVING THE PLAYERS, IT IS GOING BACK TO THE PLAYERS..

You are acting like the money is leaving the game, no the money is still there, you just have to find a way to get it.

Likewise, creating an economy, where users keep investing, because they are getting paid!! MAKING THE ECONOMY EVEN BIGGER!

99.9% RTP, is allowing users to get paid, allowing users to profit. The money is not leaving the system. It is going to different players.

Align yourself, with the rewards of the system, you will get paid consistently.

I tested these theories for months.

There are no shady practices.

UMG, is a way for you to make money.

Whether you do it, gambling, trading, or playing the lottery, or both. Or staking. Or pvping. Whatever you wanna, do just know there is no limitation or rules.

UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR IN SO MANY WAYS.

ONE WAY - THERE IS NO MAX WIN, BECAUSE THE MAX WIN IS DETERMINED, BY HOW MUCH MONEY WAS PUT IN THIS SYSTEM.

HENCE - XINF MAX WIN

THERE IS NO MAX WIN.

THERE ARE NO RULES, BEAT PLAYERS HOW EVER MANY TIMES YOU WANT.

SELL PREDICTIONS TO OTHER USERS.

UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR.

I should say, your response is a whole lotta car spin and not a lot of real point. Let's break it down, shall we?

First off, you're trying to redefine what an Unlimited Money Generator is. Newsflash: just because you have a job and get paid doesn't mean it's an Unlimited Money Generator. That's just called having a job, dude. And yeah, it costs you your time, but that's not the same as getting free money out of thin air.

And then you start talking about the RTP (return to player) being 99.9%. Okay, let's assume that's true (which I highly doubt). That doesn't mean the money is just circulating back to the players. It means the system is designed to take a cut of the money, and the rest goes back to the players. That's not an Unlimited Money Generator, that's just a fancy way of saying "we're gonna take a commission".

You keep saying that users can make money by investing and getting paid, but that's not how it works. If it were that easy, everyone would be rich by now. You're not creating a sustainable economy, you're creating a Ponzi scheme where early adopters get paid by later adopters.

And what's with the "align yourself with the rewards of the system" thing? That sounds like some kinda cult speak. You're not offering a legitimate way to make money, you're offering a way to get caught up in a scam.

You claim to have tested these theories for months, but where's the proof? Where's the data? You can't just throw out claims like that and expect people to take your word for it.

And let's be real, if Unlimited Money Generators were real, wouldn't governments be all over it? I mean, wouldn't they be promoting it as a way to boost their country's economy? But no, you don't see any government reports or initiatives on Unlimited Money Generators, even when their economy is booming. That's because it's a myth, a scam, a way to take advantage of people's desperation.

Lastly, you're trying to make it sound like UMG is some kinda utopia where people can make money however they want. Newsflash: that's not how the real world works. There are rules and limitations for a reason, and it's to prevent people like you from taking advantage of others.

So, to sum it up, your response was a whole lotta fluff and not a lot of substance. If you want to be taken seriously, try providing some actual evidence and substance to your claims. Until then, I'll keep calling out UMG for the scam it is.

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Until then, I'll keep calling out UMG for the scam it is.

I don't even know what to say to a person like you.

Part of me want's to reach through the computer screen and slap you.

Everything just goes in one ear out the other.

And then you will start harassing me on all topics, starting soon.

Oh, you wanna slap me? Well, let me tell you, there are plenty of people who'd love to slap you too - for promoting this UMG scam and taking advantage of innocent people. You're not the victim here, dude.

And btw, if everything I say goes in one ear and out the other, that's because you're too busy counting your dirty money to actually listen. You're not even trying to defend your scam with actual facts, you're just getting mad because you're getting called out.

So, go ahead and get mad, but at the end of the day, you're the one who's promoting a scam and making a fool of yourself. And I'm gonna keep calling you out for it.

Keep calling it out, your a new account, and your only posts are directed towards me.

You could be a competitor, trying to default my business..

Who says your word holds any weight?

Likewise, if you don't want users to be quote on quote 'scammed' Then stop bringing me attention, by spamming all of my threads.

If I am a scam, you are only helping me.

Dude, you're still stuck on the fact that I'm a new account and I'm focusing on UMG? Like, who cares? If I'm exposing a potential scam, that's a good thing, right?

And, let's be real, if I were a competitor trying to take down UMG, I'd be going after the big dogs like Meta Win, Stake, BC.Game, or Bitsler. I wouldn't waste my time on literally rural service like UMG.

Only you think my word has no weight, bro. The community can see the evidence I've presented and make their own decisions.

And, newsflash, me calling out UMG doesn't help you scam people. If anything, it warns them about potential risks. You can't blame me for trying to protect people from getting scammed.

Mate I am sure, when people read what you have wrote, they will understand.

Because I cant even have a normal conversation with you, without you trying to paint me as a scammer.

You cant even paint me as a scammer, without saying the scam word.

There is no way you can accurately describe me as a scammer, using vocabulary, other than 'scam'

Like say something like, 'You are a scammer, because your system, consists of users losing money, until they win, it is a ponzi scheme because you are siphoning money from old users, to new users, to get them to keep investing'

Like say something like this if you can, something to prove your claims are valid.

Because just like you say my claims, are fluff, yours are as well..

You just saying 'Your a ponzi scheme' does not prove I am a ponzi scheme

Likewise, I don't even think you know enough about the game to even be able to accurately assess it as a ponzi scheme or not.

Um, you stating it is a ponzi scheme so, actually goes against, your credibility. Because you don't even know what the game consists of, how is it a ponzi?

Your gonna have to articulate your point better, and prove I am a scam, without saying I am a scam.

No one cares what you believe. We care about what you can so thoroughly prove.

Likewise, you will be going on this rampage, all day, trying to prove I am a scammer. I am not trying to scam or fool anyone, buddy.

So right now, you are wasting your time. But I know you will continue on, because you don't have proof you are wasting your time. You still think I am a fraud.

Uh, but there is nothing I can say to you, because you are in fever dream right, now. You are so amazed by my invention it is actually, causing you to be scared of it.

I actually take it as a compliment.

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GluttonyY, I'm literally astonished by the sheer amount of logical fallacies and desperation in your latest response. You're trying to deflect criticism by claiming I'm not providing enough evidence, but that's a classic case of projection.

Firstly, you're literally asking me to provide a detailed explanation of how your system works, but you've failed to do so yourself. You've consistently avoided providing any credible information about UMG's inner workings, and now you're expecting me to do your job for you? Please.

Secondly, you're claiming that I don't know enough about the game to accurately assess it as a ponzi scheme. That's a laughable excuse, considering you've provided no transparency or information about your system. It's like you're saying, "Trust me, I'm not a scammer, but I won't show you how my system works."

Thirdly, you're literally saying that my claims are "fluff" because I'm not providing enough evidence, but you're doing the exact same thing. You're making outlandish claims about UMG without providing any credible evidence to support them. That's not how logic works, buddy.

And let's not forget, you literally supported the flag that labeled UMG as a scam. It seems you're now trying to backtrack and justify it with flawed arguments. I'm not buying it.

UMG is a scam because it promises unrealistic returns, has no transparency, and relies on unsustainable business practices. It's a ponzi scheme because it relies on new users to fund older users, with no clear explanation of how it generates value. You can't just magic money out of thin air, GluttonyY.

Your attempts to deflect criticism and shift the burden of proof are literally pathetic. You're not fooling anyone with your desperate attempts to justify UMG. It's time to face the music and admit that your "invention" is a scam.