Quote from: holydarkness on Today at 08:49:28 PM

Quote from: Rating Place on Today at 06:13:17 PM

The quote from Fairlay was long ago where they put out their email. In this thread, Fairlay did state that they found someone. You make all valid points. I've been posting points for Fairlay as it seems that the forum has turned on Fairlay and want to post counter points. I still haven't come out and said that they player is guilty although the more that I look into it and think about it, the player seems guilty. Even if guilty can Fairlay take his money? According to the ToS, yes. In the decision by the arbitrator, it would be nice to see his reasoning.

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And that is the extent of the capacity of arbitrator that fairlay choose, any arbitrator they choose, really, be it the one newfish1 agreed [efialtis and me] or the one they unilaterally choose, or the ones that [let's suppose] they finally decide to choose together later in the future: reasoning why the bets should be confiscated or paid.

This is not like a case of late-betting accusation that can be validated through matching the time of the player placing bets and the actual playtime, where the result pulled will be an absolut, a yes or a no. Nor a case of multi-acc that [privately or publicly] the casino can provide their findings and detection that matched one account to other, where the arbitrator will then validate those matches.

On this case, the arbitrator can't decide whether the game is rigged or not and that decision be taken as a fact to made a ruling. All they can do is take a spin into the case, walk through it, and pull their opinion and reason to justify why newfish1 should or should not be paid. That's the extent of what he can do, ethically.

With above statements as basis, then a question that I believe should be valid to be asked will be: then why bother looking for an independent arbitrator while all the independent people here [they're not affected at any degree with the outcome of this case, nor related to any party, thus safe to assume they're independent bodies] already take a look into the case, walk through it, and pull their opinion and reason why a step should be taken instead of the other?

Go with the majority decision, case closed. That simple.

If the player has any type of affiliation with the other Ukrainian players then he’s obviously guilty. Fairlay can’t allow fixed games or they will never get volume in anything except something such as NFL or EPL. As soon as we get the background of the player we will know. That information should be limited to as few people as possible.