Quote from: FatFork on June 23, 2024, 12:38:51 PM

Quote from: JamesNZ on June 23, 2024, 10:19:32 AM

Ideas are something actual, computer programs are something actual.

Oh, good! So we agree that at least the 'idea' of Bitcoin is something actual? And what about the implementation of that idea? Is it also something actual or non-existent?

Quote from: JamesNZ on June 23, 2024, 10:19:32 AM

But when you pay $700,000 you didn't buy 10 ideas or 10 computer programs. You bought two digits - "1" and "0". In other words, you bought 10 units of a number 21 million. Units that count nothing actual.

This just shows how much you misunderstand Bitcoin. It's like watching a toddler try to explain astrophysics. Nobody "buys an idea" with Bitcoin. The idea, and even the code itself, is open-source and free. You pay for what that idea and implementation create: a secure, transparent, and verifiable digital ledger. That's the value. It may not represent value to you, but that's your choice. People are free to make their own choices. Respect that.

Quote from: JamesNZ on June 23, 2024, 10:19:32 AM

It is crazy how you Bitcoin evangelists keep mentioning actual things, such as gold, paintings, collectables, ideas, computer programs,.. but are unable to answer what actual thing do you have when you bought xx BTC units. And when simple syllogisms show that you have nothing than you engage in ad hominem attacks, play dumb or simply trolling the discussion. You're a perfect example of such behavior.

Right back at you. You cherry-pick examples to push your narrative, conveniently ignoring facts like the digital ownership aspect of Bitcoin. If you don't appreciate simple syllogisms in my replies, try forming a coherent argument first. As for ad hominem attacks, let's get this straight. You spout nonsense about invisible things having no aesthetic value, then try to play the victim when I call out your boneheaded mistake. Did you conveniently forget that gem you dropped earlier? So when your flimsy arguments crumble, you resort to childish name-calling, then have the gall to point fingers? Hilarious.

Hahaha. Let's tray again: what actual thing do you have when you bought 10 BTC units for $700,000?

I say you have nothing actual in the amount of 10 but two digits, or 10 units of a number 21 million. You have what I can get right now by pressing two keys on the keyboard.
But you keep insisting it is something else. Then it's simple: what is it?

Other Bitcoin evangelists said it is energy, work, a commodity, a collectible-like thing, token, coin, digital asset, but couldn't show anything except digits on the screen. Now you say it is a ledger, suggesting that you bought 10 ledgers. This is stupidity of a high order. There's only one ledger. It is stored on many computers and free for everyone to download.

So, you play stupid. You know very well that you have nothing in the amount of numbers shown on the screen. You know the truth. But you're to embarrassed to admit that. To admit that you participate in the dumbest scheme ever. A scheme where tons energy or money are spend on watching numbers on the screen. What's even more dumb is that you created the whole religion out of it and you make statues of an anonymous person that invented the scheme. It's no wonder more and more people view you Bitcoin evangelists as a crazy cult.