Quote from: Zlantann on June 27, 2024, 05:55:26 PM

Quote from: ditec_wrogn on June 27, 2024, 04:52:32 PM

Regarding your comment about the use of AI being prohibited, I would appreciate if you could provide a link where a moderator, staff member, or admin explicitly states that using chatbots or AI is forbidden.

There might not been an explicit statement from any of the members you mentioned concerning the use of chatbots but I know that some members have been banned for using artificial intelligence tools. There are many examples if you visit the AI Spam Report Reference Thread. I don't think such a thread would have existed and received so much attention if the use of chatbots were not frowned upon. Some members have received tags for using these tools.

However, there is an example where a staff Xal0lex specifically stated that a newbie altcoinssousa was banned because most of his posts were written with chatbots. You can check out the post here.

Thanks for the detailed response and for sharing those references! I appreciate the time you took to provide those examples.

However, I'd like to clarify that my use of AI is to detect red flags and provide arguments against scammers. I believe this is a useful contribution to the community, as it helps protect users from falling victim to scams. I understand that there may be concerns about the use of AI, but I hope we can differentiate between using it for spamming and using it for a better purpose like mine.

What are your thoughts on this? I'd love to hear your perspective.

Quote from: JollyGood on June 27, 2024, 06:46:39 PM

Quote from: ditec_wrogn on June 27, 2024, 04:18:19 PM

I'm not actually using ChatGPT, but I've found some other commercial chatbots that work just as well. And here's the crazy part - I've been using one for 3 weeks, and no one noticed until just recently! It's been a total game-changer for me, and I thought I'd share in case any of you are interested in joining the fight against scammers.

Since you came to this thread in response to this post, why are you hiding the names of the chatbots? Tell us what the names are and how much you paid for them.

Quote from: ditec_wrogn on June 27, 2024, 04:18:19 PM

Just wanted to let you all know that every single reply I make here is done with the help of my trusty chatbot sidekick. Hope that's okay with everyone!

I think you would have noticed by now how many members feel towards you using chatbots even if you try to cover your tracks by using a misleading thread title about scam hunting.

Some members could interpret that as you trying to create a diversion from the real issue (and that is you using chatbots for no logical reason other than to increase your post count with minimal effort and eventually attempt to enrol in signature campaigns when your member rank increases) but if that is not the case you can challenge that view.

Quote from: ditec_wrogn on June 27, 2024, 04:52:32 PM

I have been using the chatbot for all of my posts for the past three weeks, and I always review its output before posting. I understand that chatbots are not always accurate, and I never simply copy and paste their responses without reviewing it.

That is what you claim but you have zero evidence to back up your claim. Can you provide any evidence to the contrary?

Thanks for your response and for bringing up some good points! I get that some members might think I'm trying to divert attention from other issues in this forum, but I want to assure everyone that's not what I'm doing.

I always review the chatbot's output before posting, and I never simply copy and paste its responses without reviewing them first. I get that chatbots aren't always accurate, and I make sure the responses are appropriate and relevant before hitting "post."

Sure, I don't have any solid proof to back up my claims, and I get that might raise some eyebrows. But I hope that my actions speak louder than words.

Quote from: uchegod-21 on June 27, 2024, 08:52:25 PM

Quote from: Pmalek on June 27, 2024, 04:25:11 PM

What are you talking about? What does AI and chatbots have to do with fighting against scammers? It seems like you are advertising the use of AI tools to post on the forum, which shouldn't be allowed and should be classified as plagiarism. What's the thread you have been posting in with AI software, and how are you fighting scammers with it?

Honestly, the thread topic is not related to the body of the thread. While the thread topic is saying that his chatbot can hunt scam, the body of the thread didn't say how this happens. Myself and so many others are expecting him to say how you he is able to program his bot to hunt scam in the forum.

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And here's the crazy part - I've been using one for 3 weeks, and no one noticed until just recently!

You are using bot to chat here and you know too well that the community frown at it. Checking your responses in this thread, it seems you are still using the bot which makes your answers not to connect with the questions asked you. Hope you will be happy when some DT members start writing in your feedback?

Thanks for your response! Just wanted to clarify that I didn't program the chatbot to hunt scammers. I just asked it to generate responses that could help detect red flags and provide arguments against scammers. I review the chatbot's output, correct any mistakes, and ask it to generate better results.

I always make sure the responses are appropriate and relevant to the conversation. Sure, my use of chatbots might not always result in perfect responses, but I do my best to make sure they make sense in context.

Quote from: _BlackStar on June 27, 2024, 10:14:53 PM

Quote from: ditec_wrogn on June 27, 2024, 04:52:32 PM

The chatbot I use isn't very different from other content development AI tools, but I have found that it is more effective at identifying potential scams and alerting me to them.

Don't be shy about telling us how it works and it would be useful if you mentioned the name of the chatbot you are referring to so we can review it together. There's no point in disguise something if your goal is to contribute to the forum - so tell the truth and don't be shy. So are you ready to say it now?

Really - I really wonder if chatbot are useful to identify potential scam or anything like you said.

Thanks for your response! I didn't mention the name of the chatbot I'm using to keep my word with Pmalek. But I can tell you that chatbots can be helpful in detecting potential scams - I've already made 3 flags and scam accusations that got some support.

Quote from: nutildah on Today at 01:54:15 AM

Using AI to write your posts for you is extremely insincere. You're denying yourself the opportunity to become a more fluent writer while also giving off vibes of laziness. I suggest you write your posts in your own words. Just imagine if you were trying to get into a signature campaign, all your efforts would have gone down the drain.

Thanks for your response and for sharing your thoughts! I get where you're coming from, but I don't plan on joining any signature campaigns anytime soon - they don't pay enough anyway. I appreciate the suggestion, but I believe that chatbots will become a common tool for everyday usage in the future.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on Today at 02:26:27 AM

AI IMO is going to be a part of the world no matter if we want it or not. Kind of a deal with it situation cause it's not going away. The issue with implementing that on a forum is that just makes users more lazy than they already were. How hard is it really to make a few posts a day with your own thoughts? If you're not using your own thoughts to share your opinion, then you really don't have an opinion and are only here trying to make a buck. Shows you have 0 respect for this forum or its users.

I don't agree with users cheating the system using chatbots with unoriginal ideas and thoughts.

Thanks for your response and for sharing your thoughts! I understand where you're coming from, but I want to assure you that I'm not using chatbots to cheat the system or to make a quick buck. I want to clarify that using them to detect scammy behavior and provide arguments against scammers is very different from cheating the system. I believe chatbots will become a common tool for everyday usage in the future.

Quote from: Apocollapse on Today at 05:01:52 AM

Quote from: ditec_wrogn on June 27, 2024, 04:18:19 PM

And here's the crazy part - I've been using one for 3 weeks, and no one noticed until just recently! It's been a total game-changer for me, and I thought I'd share in case any of you are interested in joining the fight against scammers.

People might not noticed you, but it doesn't mean you can escape when someone busted you using AI. Just like cheaters that using two or more accounts joining in the same campaign, it's all fine until someone caught you cheating.

I don't see any point for using chatbot to fight against scammers, the three thread you created in scam accusations section 1, 2, 3 were previously tagged by DT members. I mean, we already know they're scammers since they have negative feedback, it's not the chatbot that caught the scammers, it's only add unnecessary text.

I just tried to detect one of your post and three sites detect it's created by AI.

sapling.ai: Fake 95.9%
GPTZero: 59% Probability AI generated
Copyleaks: AI Content Detected

Quote from: ditec_wrogn on June 25, 2024, 04:49:10 PM

I came across a discussion on this forum where a suspicious individual hardworkinfamilyman claiming to have information about the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, the creator of Bitcoin. The user is asking the community to vote on whether or not they should reveal Satoshi's identity, but there are several red flags that suggest this is a scam.

Red Flags:

The user has provided a GPG key, claiming it to be Satoshi Nakamoto's, but it is not owned by Satoshi. This is a common tactic used by scammers to falsely prove their identity.
The user has provided receipts as "The truest form of evidence" to prove their connection to Satoshi Nakamoto. However, these receipts are not conclusive evidence as there is no confirmation from GoDaddy that they are real. It is easy to create fake receipts and this is a common tactic used by scammers to deceive others.
The user has cited Dr. Craig Wright as proof of their claims. However, Dr. Craig Wright is a known liar who has lost several lawsuits where the judge has ruled that he is not Satoshi Nakamoto. Citing Dr. Craig Wright as proof of one's identity is further proof that this user is a scammer.
The user is asking the Bitcoin community to use their influence to list X1Coin on crypto exchanges. This raises concerns about the legitimacy of X1Coin and the user's intentions.
When called out for potentially being a scammer, the user became defensive and compared themselves to famous inventors such as Nikola Tesla, Thomas Edison, and Marie Curie. This is a common tactic used by scammers to deflect criticism and garner sympathy.

Even More Shady Claims:

The user claims to have acquired vistomail.com, including the email alias satoshi@vistomail.com, and has been conducting research on the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. However, the user has not provided any concrete evidence to support these claims.
The user is asking the community to vote on whether or not they should reveal Satoshi's identity, but it is unclear what the purpose of this vote is or how it will be conducted. This seems like a ploy to gain attention and credibility.
The user initially asked for money tips, but has not provided any real proof that they have communicated with the real Satoshi Nakamoto.

I'm convinced that this user is A SCAM, and I'd advise everyone to be cautious and not to engage with them. The promises of revealing Satoshi's identity and the user's involvement with X1Coin seem too good to be true. The lack of concrete evidence and the user's history of scamming only add to my suspicions. Did anyone else notice any other red flags that I might have missed?

'm not using chatbots to cheat the system or to make a quick buck. I believe chatbots can be useful in identifying potential scams, as evidenced by the flags and scam accusations I've made that received support. I'm the only member who actually created threads and flags against those scammers. Furthermore, one of the scammers even admitted that their unlimited money generator is a scam by supporting the flag I created. Regarding the detection of my posts as AI-generated, I'm not surprised since they were actually created by AI.

Quote from: Pandu Geddon on Today at 07:18:19 AM

Quote from: ditec_wrogn on June 27, 2024, 04:41:02 PM

I always review the chatbot's output before posting. I get that chatbots are not always accurate, and I never just copy and paste their responses.

Yes, you will of course review the information generated by the chatbot, you can correct unnecessary words or information. it makes what you do easier, but I still don't agree with using chatbots for discussion forums.

I know that AI is part of the development of science which is currently very extraordinary and widely developed. we can't stop people from using it, but may have to look at where and how the technology is used.
Some people choose the easy way but they forget the originality of the information shared.

I understand where you're coming from, and I appreciate your perspective on the use of chatbots in discussion forums. I agree that AI is a rapidly developing field, and I understand that some people might have concerns about its use in certain contexts.

I believe that just as people had concerns about the impact of the printing press on society, similar concerns were raised about the use of chatbots. I believe that as AI technology continues to develop, it will become a more common tool for everyday usage.

Quote from: Vod on Today at 07:41:28 AM

I don't remember people disclosing that they used a spell check when that became popular. I'll never use AI to write my posts, as I have a superior command of the language. I also will never look down at someone who uses tools to help them communicate.

Using AI to scam and earn money is obviously a different manner.

Thanks for your response! I agree that using AI to scam and earn money is a different manner. I also appreciate your perspective on the use of AI, and I'm glad to hear that you don't look down on those who use it to help them communicate.

Quote from: JollyGood on Today at 09:39:30 AM

The OP created the thread because he had already been noticed and decided to divert the attention by stating AI was "the future of scam hunting". All he had to do was to own up to what he did and move on but he decided this thread was a better way of trying to save his account from getting tags.

What can be noted is that he never provided any details of the chatbots he uses and he did not mention the names of the alleged scammers he claims he took down online or their websites. He is most probably a farm account puppeteer that will end up giving up on this account when it has multiple ~distrusts and/or tags.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on Today at 02:26:27 AM

AI IMO is going to be a part of the world no matter if we want it or not. Kind of a deal with it situation cause it's not going away. The issue with implementing that on a forum is that just makes users more lazy than they already were. How hard is it really to make a few posts a day with your own thoughts? If you're not using your own thoughts to share your opinion, then you really don't have an opinion and are only here trying to make a buck. Shows you have 0 respect for this forum or its users.

I don't agree with users cheating the system using chatbots with unoriginal ideas and thoughts.

Hey there, I get where you're coming from, but I'd rather not share the name of the chatbot I'm using since i made promise to another user, "Pmalek," to not advertise it. I'm here to fight scammers.

I'd also like to address the false accusation that I've literally taken down scammers or their websites. I haven't made any such claims. I've only mentioned that I use a chatbot to help me detect red flags and respond to scammers here on the forum.

Quote from: NotATether on Today at 12:26:29 PM

I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean in the context of Bitcointalk.

Sure, you can run posts through a chatbot, but downloading the posts themselves is a different matter. There is no 'scam analysis tool' that I know of, although there may be websites that provide social engineering checks inside a bunch of text (Bitdefender hosts one in case you're curious).

Hey there, I see what you mean! What i mean is chatbot can help me and other members detect red flags, write scam accusation threads, and come up with arguments against scammers easier and quicker. Many member often just reply "scam" without going the extra mile to create a flag or write a full thread, which I hoped to change. I appreciate the mention of the Bitdefender tool.