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Quote from: Argoo on June 29, 2024, 10:25:11 AM

Quote from: serveria.com on June 25, 2024, 07:24:26 PM

Ukraine has hit a beach in Sevastopol killing and injuring hundreds, including many kids.

In the case of the death of civilians on the beach of Sevastopol, one more important point should be taken into account. International law, it turns out, does not protect Russian civilians if they are in the occupied territory of Ukraine - in Crimea, Donbass or in other Russian-occupied territories of Ukraine.

The only document protecting the rights of citizens during war is the Geneva Convention of 1949, which also regulates the protection of citizens in occupied territories. According to this convention, citizens of all countries except the aggressor country are protected. That is, Russian citizens are not protected by international conventions while in Crimea.

This is why the Ukrainian army has the right to destroy Russian civilians in Crimea without taking into account their interests. For example, if there are 100 Russian citizens and one military man on the beach, the Ukrainian military has the right to launch missile attacks there.

Ukraine has long warned Russian citizens not to come to the occupied territory of Ukraine, because fighting is taking place almost everywhere there. If Russia encourages their arrival, then it is Russia that is responsible for their safety and their death from hostilities.

What a fucking nazi pig you are! I hope you understand you're trying to justify the killing of civilians including kids?

You are mentioning some laws and conventions but is there any war going on de jure? Did Russia declare war on Ukraine? No. Did Ukraine declare war on Russia? Again no. So why do you mention these conventions which are only effective during war?

Many people who live in Crimea are actually Ukrainian citizens or ex-Ukrainian citizens who decided to accept Russian citizenship only recently. Which makes this merciless attack even more horrific.

By the way, why are you still here? Your compatriots are dying in trenches and you're shitposting from the safety of your home? Grin

I explained the legal aspects of the presence of Russian citizens in the occupied territories of Ukraine and do not at all justify their murder. But Russia should think about this first of all, calling on its citizens to go on vacation to the occupied Crimea, where the fighting is taking place. The Kremlin understands this very well. Therefore, Putin has not yet commented on the death of Russian civilians in the occupied territories, including in Crimea, precisely because he realizes that their death lies entirely with the political leadership of Russia, which started the war.

And regarding the fact that even Russian Z-patriots admit that Russian air defense was to blame for the incident on the beach of Sevastopol, which shot down a missile over the beach of Sevastopol, even former State Duma deputy Viktor Alksnis said in an interview with the propaganda resource “Stalingrad”.
https://www.dialog.ua/war/297622_1719746229

If Russia has not officially declared war on Ukraine, abandoning its armies to capture Ukraine, this does not mean that there is no war. The very fact of a massive military invasion and the start of hostilities already means war and does not require any additional acts. UN documents do not contain the term “declaration of war” at all.

Ukraine does not declare war on Russia for the reason that, from the point of view of international law, a state that declares war is an aggressor, even if it is the victim of an attack. That is, if Ukraine declares war on Russia, it will turn out that Ukraine will become an aggressor.
https://24tv.ua/ru/pochemu-ukraina-do-sih-por-ne-objavila-vojnu-objasnil-pervyj-genprokuror-24-kanal_n2475427