Quote from: Betwrong on Today at 09:19:59 AM

Quote from: be.open on July 05, 2024, 04:33:46 AM

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And Ukraine can already stop running around the world, signing meaningless security guarantees, because Ukraine can only receive the only weighty and significant security guarantee from Russia. Simply for geographical reasons.

A "security guarantee from Russia" and some puppet president like Yanukovich or Medvedchuk?

If you are not happy with the puppet president, maybe you will like President Putin more? Grin

Quote from: Betwrong on Today at 09:19:59 AM

We don't want to live in Russian gulag. We want to be a free country coexisting with the civilized world. In your opinion, we don't have that right?

Who is this “we”? Speak for yourself. I don't want to rake the propaganda crap out of your head.

Nobody forbids Ukraine from being a free sovereign state striving to share European values, and maybe even in the distant future becoming a member of the EU. But this was not enough for Ukraine, and it wants to join NATO, and this is an existential security threat for Russia. if Ukraine doesn’t care about this, so much the worse for it.