Quote from: Ryu_Ar1 on July 08, 2024, 05:22:35 PM

Quote from: Slow death on July 08, 2024, 01:28:52 PM

Quote from: Ryu_Ar1 on July 06, 2024, 09:51:25 PM

But if this happens then it is likely that the champion will be Spain because looking at the history that the Netherlands still cannot change at this time, no matter how good their performance is and no matter how strong the players they have in the end they are always runner-up specialists for state competitions.

It's just that it is also very good to expect this condition to occur because although the semi-finals are still not done but seeing the performance of England and France for this euro is actually quite monotonous and it would be better if Spain and the Netherlands are in the final which is a match that will present more interesting things I think.

However, looking at the current probabilities even though the performance of England and France is still very bad but the probability of them remaining strong to be in the final at the euro this time.

The Netherlands are being underestimated in this game against England, I say this because the odds are not balanced, they are in England's favor because they are looking at the England squad, but when we look at the h2h involving these two teams, we have a scenario in which the Netherlands had more victories in games against England

https://livescores.biz/h2h/england-vs-netherlands#european-championship

That's why I see the Netherlands with a chance of reaching the final. and in the case of Spain against France, in the last 5 games in which both teams faced each other, Spain won in 3 games, France won in just 1 game and they drew in 1 game. So I see Spain as having a greater chance of also reaching the final. Now if Spain and the Netherlands reached the final, I see Spain being champions.

It's pretty good if we look at this with the statistics of their matches that have happened but looking at the year of playing that even the last time they met was in 2019 meaning that it's been 5 years since they met so I don't think the statistics will be too applicable.

But looking at England's current performance and seeing from what the Netherlands showed actually I expected the Netherlands to be in the final even though in the end they also had to fight the runner up curse for competitions like the Euro or world cup.

It cannot be denied that until now England still have the greatest probability of becoming champions but indeed from the group phase to the quarter-finals their performance was not too convincing and if you look at the opponents faced actually this match against Switzerland and the Netherlands is their test because previously they did not really find commensurate opponents in the sense of being equally strong in terms of level and quality of players.

England has a good squad, but unfortunately they have a terrible coach, but England are so lucky in this tournament that I have always wondered how the hell they were so lucky to only play against weak teams, if they had been unlucky enough to play against teams strong, then they would have been eliminated, now at this stage they can also count on luck and beat the Netherlands on penalties, because England have been lucky in this tournament. but the Netherlands are a strong team and they haven't had the misfortune of going to penalties yet, in my opinion if the Netherlands don't beat England within the 90 minutes, then the risk of them losing in extra time and penalties will be too high

Quote from: Zaguru12 on July 08, 2024, 01:55:29 PM

Quote from: Slow death on July 08, 2024, 01:28:52 PM

The Netherlands are being underestimated in this game against England, I say this because the odds are not balanced, they are in England's favor because they are looking at the England squad, but when we look at the h2h involving these two teams, we have a scenario in which the Netherlands had more victories in games against England

That's why I see the Netherlands with a chance of reaching the final. and in the case of Spain against France, in the last 5 games in which both teams faced each other, Spain won in 3 games, France won in just 1 game and they drew in 1 game. So I see Spain as having a greater chance of also reaching the final. Now if Spain and the Netherlands reached the final, I see Spain being champions.

I can’t agree less with you mate, the Dutch’s have been very underrated throughout this tournament, even against Turkey they were not favourite to win the game but among all the other four participants they are the only ones that didn’t needed any extra 30 minutes to move pass any stage. They have been scoring freely with Spain the nation that has scored more than them among the last four. But let’s leave the scoring aside, their backline has been a joy to watch for me, they say defense wins you trophies and that’s one thing that’s leading the Dutch right now. I don’t think England will have this games easy if ask me.

England and Netherlands do not majorly meet a lot in international competitions if I am not mistaken those stats are from Friendlies which I don’t ever use to analyze my predictions. England under Southgate have been always poor in pre tournament matches but in the real tournament they have managed to learn how to win even if they play bad at times, that could be what might save them in this phase now against Netherlands

with Southgate they are winning games relying on luck, something that shouldn't happen because they have a good squad that with a good coach would make them win games with certain ease, I don't understand the top football management in England why they continue keeping Southgate as national coach. If England are lucky enough to reach the final and win or even lose and end up in second place, I believe Southgate will stay much longer

As expected, Spain won in the game against France and gave me a profit