Quote from: AVE5 on July 10, 2024, 02:18:10 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on July 10, 2024, 12:28:48 PM

Quote from: AVE5 on July 10, 2024, 11:27:45 AM

I submit to say there's a misconception which you understood it on the other way and not literally how I meant.
Let me just say that things that has addictive potentials or negative effect if one isn't taking adequate conciousness of it shouldn't be engaged to the knowledge of kids because they're usually fond of daring even when the fact is seem as threats to hurt.
They're psychologically tendered and not self defensive enough to separate the right from wrongs so, it should be better they don't even learn about that angle which if by means they induges to do it on their own without a guidance that it could be hurtful such as the gambling maybe emphasized.
I just think that with their tendered mentality they shouldn't be closed to gambling or its discussion because you as a guidance might not always be around them to guide them all through their going in and outs.

But why discussing gambling isnt accepted ? What is bad from knowing what to expect from gambling, knowing how it works, what consequences might be if you act recklessly? You suggest to experience that themselves when they turn 18 ? Or I, as a parent, better warn them about it. Isnt it better to be familiar to unknows when I am not around and cant guide them? You said it yourself - kids are "psychologically tendered and not self defensive enough to separate the right from wrongs". And you suggest to keep them defenceless and not knowing about potential threat.

Okay, how about if I put it this way that "teaching them about the consequences of gambling might be a good one rather than just having a gambling discussion or even probably gambling to their notice while the ongoing activity doesn't connect with educating the kids about it". Because some other parent aside your way of thinking could make that mistake.
So I guess they'd take it up to their own way and try if they could emulate from what was heard or seen without understanding the basic due to their tendered mentality.
Sometimes, it feels more safer not to let call on kids attentions at some terms having potential hurt just like I said earlier, "kids sometimes intensionally acts ignorant and would always want to "dare" just to feel how that may really hurt before taking a lession out of it".
Sorry I've been reasoning otherwise from you because I think of bringing my own kids up my ways so also you've your ways. So I'm definitely not going to doubt your opinion. You're right and I could be right also.

Previously in this topic I have mentioned, that parents must have a "high reputation" in kids eyes. Not like parents must be strict and kids should be afraid of them, afraid to do something wrong and etc. But a kind of reputation, when father or mothers says it one time, and the kid fully agree and believe in that. For example if I tell my kid "he buddy, you see, you are a bit young for gambling, wait until you are 18 and you can try it yourself, but today, it isnt recommended to try". My kid would trust what I say and wont "dare" to do opposite.

You know, kids always test limits of what can they do (what is forbidden) and get away with it, and when they will get punished. In my family, such thing as "dare" to do what I have told not to do does not work. We have a little bit different approach. We do not forbit most of things, but we explain and discuss consequences and what can go wrong. If my kid wants to jump down from a tree house. I would not say "you are not allowed to do that" or "if you jump, I wont let you play in again". Instead I say that you can try jumping down, but you might hurt yourself, or might not. If want to try it - try, but if you get hurt, I am not going to help you. I am letting my kid get his own experience. The kid would better learn now, instead of being 18 and jumping down the roof, because of not realizing what would be.