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Quote from: AlphaBoy on July 10, 2024, 02:37:18 PM

every poor man I know has 5-6 kids, also every single rich person I know have 2-3 kids.

I think this colouration is changing and I have heard more people, people of less classes in the society discuss the need to bear few children and the singles too are having change of mind. To prove that the numbers are beginning to reduce, if you go to African wedding especially that of Nigeria, during the reception when the MC ask the celebrants how many children they would like to have, they usually say 2 to 4 children especially 3/4 children and not up to 5 except on rare occasions where they would say the 5th may be the one of " mistake ".

So I think education is what has caused this paradigm shift. More lower class people are getting educated lately and they are being knowledgeable and also trying to lessen the burden of training plenty children to fewer children and having comfort and living a comfortable live for themselves and children. All of those where never in the picture in the past as they never matter in the scheme of things in the old days. There is shift in the way things are done now in terms of family live.

yes it dose now, but in specific part of the world.
in India 68% of the population are from the lower cast (Dalit and Sudra) and those too poor that they work 9 hours for there daily bread, yet they still have more kids.
if you need an education to learn a common sense then you aren't a human, basically you are sub-human.
a common sense that tells you when you barely can eat yourself you should not bring a dozen of children, any "human" who dose not have that common sense or need an education to understand it then he dosn't deserve the air that he breath, even animals have that common sense.
each birth of the hamster result of 6-8 pups and look up what the hamster mother will do to her pups if she felt that the food isn't enough for all of them.

Quote from: Albarq on Today at 10:44:02 AM

From the conclusion, poor people have lots of children because they don't plan their births and don't have much money to buy medication to delay pregnancy, and it's clear that it's very difficult for them to eat, let alone think about other things, and indeed it's a difficult process at the moment to prevent it.

How much dose these medication cost usually?
definitely cheaper than raising another kid.

Quote from: Hewlet on Today at 11:42:17 AM

You asked a very reasonable question and honestly, it's what has become a norm that most poor people have a greater number of children than their richer counterparts but I must add that the approach you used in making your analysis is quite shallow and not fact-based.

Quote from: AlphaBoy on July 10, 2024, 02:37:18 PM

what makes Africans have on average 8 kids while living in literal famine?

Even though most African countries are underdeveloped and are mostly looked at on the global stage as being dominated by poverty-stricken families, in reality, that's far from what's actually the case. As a core African man who has lived both in the village part of my country and the town, I can boldly say that it's not true that we've witnessed anything close to feminine except in war zones where people can't comfortably go out to carry out their daily hustle.

The mentality of most poor people in the locality is that with more children, you have more hands that can help you on your farm, and that can also help you when you're old and that's the reason why they normally have more children compared to the richer folks.

Religion also plays its own role in this matter cause for some religions, you can marry as many wives as you find comfortable with, and for each of the wives you've married, they will expect to have a child for you and by so doing, you find out that some men might get married to 6 wives and have at least 3 kids from each of them. For this scenario, you can't say it's about wealth cause most of the people who marry too many wives are mostly traditional people who aren't rich in Their context.

Quote from: AlphaBoy on July 10, 2024, 02:37:18 PM

do there brains cannot comprehend the future or something? are they that stupid?

Individuals' projection of the future varies and while some will dime it fit that they will only give birth to children they can feed and take care of their education, others might term it a thing of pride that they have so many children who will grow up to take care of them in the future.

Again another factor that even plays a greater role could be education and for most cases, educated people tend to have a lesser number of children than uneducated ones due to their general perception of a child's training.

There are more than a thousand and one reasons why people decide to have more children and poverty is just one of them.

the population in Africa in 1600 was less than 100 million and most Africans didn't know any farming or hording animals or anything really since they didn't need to, everything was on easy mood to them back then as the jungle provide tons of fruit that rote on the ground and there was more Animals than people, so there wasn't any need to learn these thing and yet, there was less than 100 million people live there.
the problem is when you don't have a total control of the idiots and low IQ people in your country because they will always think that things are good because god love them or something, they don't understand anything at all other than the 5 second pleasure of sex, I saw this in my country where the idiots start to have way more people than the country can handle resulting of increasing of the prices housing and less jobs.
and maintaining a 5 hectare farm is easy if you are hard working man, it doesn't need 100 people to do the entire job I mean look at the Amish and rich farmer in Asia so agriculture isn't an excuse.

Quote from: Dunamisx on Today at 11:56:58 AM

Both the rich and the poor do give birth to children and this have to do with the desirability of individuals on what they wanted, if we can afford to take good care of having many children, then i dont see anything bad in doing that, but some have said it's more common for the poor people to give birth to many children than the rich one, though this is more of a mentality basis, everyone can have as much as many children they wanted.

yeah, and also everyone need to take responsibility for there actions.
how many cases of domestic violence happened within a poor family this years?
thousands every day.
how many cases of domestic violence happened within a rich family this years?
zero, not even one.
you really think it's easy not to be mentally ill while living in these conditions?

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Quote from: AlphaBoy on July 10, 2024, 02:37:18 PM

why dose poor people always have 5x time the children of wealthy people?
what make Africans have on average 8 kids while living in literal famine?

Not only in Africa this also happens in my country, families that are living in remote areas usually have an average of 6 children and this is due to ignorance, the family tradition that a big family has a good reputation in the community and of course they are hoping that their children will get them out of poverty, its like an endless cycle.

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I really can't figure out the answer for this!
every poor man I know has 5-6 kids, also every single rich person I know have 2-3 kids.

This is not always the case, many couples are now matured and the government are educating them on having a small family, so they can manage the household and the health of all the members of the family.

It's unending cycle.
the only way to end it is cutting all type of help to them, sure you will hurt them and there children but at least you will cut the cycle and prevent more people to get hurt.

Quote from: Oshio-man on Today at 02:34:38 PM

They are not stupid and stop using that word to such people, children are gift from God, which is the best gift God has given to poor people which money or position cannot buy, because there are some rich people looking for children but they can only give birth to one or two, not that they don't need more than that in the community but they don't have the strength to produce more than that which is the gift God use to blessed the poor.

"a gift of god"
really? then let there god help them take care of there gift.
have you ever heard of a single domestic violence case happened in a rich family? have you ever saw uneducated rich person? have you ever saw unhealthy rich person?
the thing is when you have "a gift" more than you can get excited about then you need to take full responsibility.
why should I hear the voices of some dump "father" beating his gift of god because he feel that this gift killed his dream of life? why should I live among some mentally ill people who grow up in abusive house?
hell why should I be one of them?
if you believe in god and then you get abandon by him do not go crying and bitching about the prices of everything and how it's hard to take care of your children and then you go ape shit on them creating a traumatic men.
have you ever heard of mentally ill rich person? or a rich person who grow up in abusive house?
weird that not a single rich family had a problem with there "gift" of "god" but they are always poor, and you know the best part about growing up in abusive house? is the generational trauma the cycle will never end and will continue for ever.

if you are poor you should not have more than 2 kids, three at max and that's that