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Quote from: Rating Place on July 11, 2024, 10:27:35 PM

Quote from: holydarkness on July 11, 2024, 10:08:16 PM

Quote from: Rating Place on July 11, 2024, 09:26:58 PM

How would you rule as is? Rollbit has IP. OP has resident, rental agreement and bank statements saying he's a LUX resident at the time of his play.

that's exactly what I tried to convey and made you understand. That's what I suggested OP to submit to disprove his own statement. For the love of all holy and dark being. Let me try again,

OP made a bad decision by giving a statement that he's a UK resident. Regardless of the meaning of resident that OP gave, be it an extended stays, a short visit, one [week] night stand, he admitted to Rollbit that he's in UK. OP instantly violates Rollbit's ToS by his own statement because they'll assume OP accessed Rollbit with those two big feet of his on Canary Wharf or somewhere else. It further proven by Rollbit's detection of IP that's pinged to UK instead of LUX.

As it seems Rollbit uses this against OP, I proposed OP to disprove his own statement, that he's not staying more than what his working hours require, and commutes back to LUX when it's over [thus, the chance to actually play from UK is significantly smaller compared to if he's there for extended period like being on permanent basis]. I honestly don't know what to suggest to OP if Rollbit asked him to prove that he's truly never, not even once, played from UK, perhaps during his lunch break, and I really hope we don't have to come that way. Though I've propose it to you, suppose you have a good way for OP to prove this.

Quote from: Rating Place on July 11, 2024, 09:26:58 PM

I read your stuff but it doesn't matter. I took the resident argument from AHOY. Go with your definition of resident.

Oh? What did Ahoy said about resident?

AHOYBRAUSE, my apology, it seems you're dragged into this [I assume] rather unwillingly. But do you mind to tell us what exactly the definition of residency you gave to Peeps?

And no, Peeps, it's not my opinion, it's an explanation from several casinos. It is what applies throughout casinos. I am not the one who make that rule according to myself. It's simply a "fact" of definition agreed amongst casinos.

Quote from: Rating Place on July 11, 2024, 09:26:58 PM

The OP moved. It would have been better if you sent it for better chance of reply, but I sent this

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Hey Razer,

The thread is getting fairly long on the $64k case. Is there anything that the OP can provide, per suggestions in the thread, that will help his case or is the decision final by Rollbit? Thanks

Cancel all the bets from the UK

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Spain: 1,420 (75.85%)
United Kingdom: 442 (23.61%)
Other (mostly attributed to VPN activity): 0.54%

Great. I wished you good luck and we can hear from Razer from your side.

Sportsbet.io

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Restricted jurisdictions are specific countries or territories that are restricted by our gaming license, and as a result, users located in or from these regions are prohibited from registering and playing on Sportsbet.io.

Stake

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14.3 Persons located in or reside in

Pinnacle

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and any other country which may prohibit the offering of online gambling to its residents or to any person within such country

Stake, Sportsbet and Pinnacle all use "or", meaning there is a difference. Even if I'm wrong on "resident", for the sake of argument, you are just looking for gotcha moments just like any scam book looks for one little thing to hold on too. Look for reasons to pay the player, not for reasons not to pay the player. For the 100th time, he said he was a resident after playing, not while he was playing. You're looking for another gotcha moment for the book by repeating over and over again a clip of what a poster said, ignoring that he said after playing he became a resident. Who would you rule for at this point? I noticed you are avoiding it.

How did he play from UK?

The hard block restriction for UK users was only recently added, (around the middle of June afaik), priror to that there was a warning as follows:
"For legal reasons, this website and its services are not available in your country. If you are using a VPN, please disable it and try again" - This message would appear every time the user loaded the site, and they would have to close the notification in order to use the site.

The hard block for UK users as mentioned has only recently been put in place, likely to better direct users to the upcoming UK Rollbit site.

From my knowledge of sites, although its stated that you must reside in the allowed region, if you are using the site from a restricted region (the OP admitted to playing in from the UK) that is also a breach of the TOS as the site does not have a license to allow the user to play there.

thanks for the clarification. If the OP admits to playing from the UK, the penalty seems stiff that all winnings can be confiscated. I think it more fair to void winnings while in restricted areas.