Quote from: Loveday422 on July 12, 2024, 05:21:16 PM

The reason why poor people has more kids in most cases they believe since them don't have money that any of their kids will be rich in future,their by making their name to come up ,the son of emeka the palmwine tapper ,is now rich most family are not rich but they have fat and tall men in the house if u defeet them in money one can't defeet them by natural power ,they will finish you,with this few point of my one can know the reasons why man men has many children

bro this actually a good one, I heard a lot of poor putting there hope on there children to be rich and to take care of the family.
but funny the funny thing that those people believe the saying "if you suffer today you gonna have an easy tomorrow"
just because you suffer today it dose not mean you gonna have a good future, maybe you will suffer and die.

Quote from: memehunter on Today at 12:19:05 PM

Hey, I get where you're coming from, but some of those stats aren't quite right. Let me break it down:
Yeah, the population numbers for Africa and South Asia seem about right. But saying 37.5% of people live in extreme poverty? That's way off. The World Bank says it's actually around 9.2% as of 2020. Still a lot of people, but nowhere near a third of the world.
And about birth rates in Africa - it's not 8 kids per woman like you said. It's more like 4.6 on average. Still higher than rich countries, but it's been going down over time.
The thing is, this isn't some age-old pattern that's been happening for thousands of years. Birth rates have been dropping pretty much everywhere as education and healthcare get better, even in poorer countries.
It's important to get the facts straight. There's usually more to the story than what we might assume at first glance.

in central Africa they dose, at least till 2000s
and as I said before if you need an education to understand a common sense then you are lower than animals, because even animals have the common sense of not producing more than they can feed.
in Europe back in the days people had more kids because the food was secured, they didn't live in famine and had kids

Quote from: legiteum on Today at 02:37:17 PM

The irony of this thread is that OP is answering his own question by blaming women on the problem, and ignoring the actual causes e.g. the treatment of women in his country.

the irony that you don't understand this thread and you want me to reply on your reply even tho your reply come from the fact that you did not understand anything in this thread.
I am not talking about rape victim I am talking about families, poor families that have more kids than they should be or should do.

Quote from: uneng on July 12, 2024, 11:36:41 PM

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Quote from: uneng on July 11, 2024, 11:04:47 PM

Poor people need proper education and guidance in order to leave poverty through organizing and managing their lives more efficiently. It's something which takes times, and sometimes several generations to happen, but it's something which must be pointed out, like OP is doing, and discussed.

It's not only about education and guidance, if they were raised wrongly e.g. stunting, had trauma, suffer structural poverty etc, they might not able to escape from poverty.

If they were raised wrongly, being abused and not receiving the correct stimulus and incentives for each phase of their lives, it means they didn't receive guidance from the family, school and society where they are inserted.

To guide a child is part of the raising process. You have to give attention, teach good principles and values, show behavioral examples, so they can mirror their actions on your conduct.

However, if this guidance has never been available, how are they going to end the cycle? Noboby can absorb a knowledge or influence they have never been exposed to. That is why it's a process which takes a long time to happen, maybe several generations inside a family...

There isn't a known solution for this issue. What we see for real is that the minority of the individuals in such financial conditions are able to avoid this "destiny", and then start thinking critically about this matter (and end being criticized by everyone else around...). I believe these individuals are the hope for others who can finally get inspired by them to also escape the "Platonic cave" from Plato’s Allegory of the Cave.

you are a deep thinker uneng, I really like the way you think.
my theory is that eugenic is the only answer to this.
you might think that the cycle broking easily but it dose not, the US has illiteracy rate less than 1% and most of the 1% are mentally challenged people.
and yet you see how many serials killer out there and all of them had there share of abuse.
the only way to end this cycle is to end the blood line.
I am one of the most people who dream of eugenic in my own country, even tho I am sure they will sterilize me the first but I have no problem, one of the most important reasons Germany have the highest IQ in Europe was what happen in Nazi Germany back then, they when they sterilize anyone that showed criminal future and anyone with a low IQ, thus the only Germans that had kids were the best Germans.
now a days they talk about "human rights" and how everyone has the right to have kids, but when you tells them to raise the taxes so you take care of those mentally ill and stupid people everyone "human righter" disappear.
you need to break the cycle you need to sterilize them.

either way the generational trauma will have 2 ends:
1-The last link will hate himself and his blood line and he refrains from having children
2-They will have even more children and beat the living fuck out of them daily (some times it's rape)