Quote from: BunnyWunny on July 22, 2024, 05:17:30 PM

Quote from: FatFork on July 22, 2024, 04:42:31 PM

Quote from: BunnyWunny on July 21, 2024, 11:10:50 PM

you are a stooge for the state.

Oh absolutely, because rebelling against basic societal rules and contributing nothing has always been the key to dismantling the all-powerful state. They must be terrified of your... non-compliance?

Quote from: BunnyWunny on July 21, 2024, 11:10:50 PM

are you seriously comparing native american society to modern "democratic" society? have you lost every marble in your head?

I don't. You brought them into the conversation, not me. The point is, many pre-colonial Native American tribes had functioning structures, even if different from our modern democracies. These structures involved complex leadership systems with councils, chiefs, and representatives - all chosen by the people. So, like I said before, next time you should really learn some history.

one major and profound difference being, each member of the tribe actually could go talk to their tribal chief and explain their worries and concerns.. good luck getting a meeting with the potus.

the other being, they did not have anywhere near the amount of regulations and laws that modern society does, the governance structures were extremely loose and basic.

democracy in small groups works, that is patently obvious.

democracy in large groups (try 330 million) does not work and cannot even be considered democracy

Voting helps to keep a Constitutional Convention from happening. That's the only thing that can mess our situation up. The current Amendments are sufficient for both, our Constitutional Republic, and the Democracy of the way the government works.

The people need to realize that none of the things that the current governmental regime does has anything to do with them the people... except that they voluntarily 'obey' it. The courts are open for men and women to stand as men and women rather than persons, and legally and lawfully reject every order that government tries to give them, through proper court adjudication. It's simple, so simple that it's scary.

The only three things that the courts can touch men and women on are harm, property damage, or direct threat. The reason why the courts seem to have so much more power is that the men and women agree to it when they agree to being represented.

Wake up. Voting is the way to keep government under control if it is used correctly and wisely.

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