Quote from: Ambatman on Today at 05:16:02 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 29, 2024, 11:59:19 PM

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As can be seen
I was talking about Mt Gox sell off
A likely reason why there was barely any sell off
I was associating it with a likelihood it might be because they bullish and plan on selling when it rises
I never mentioned I.

You likely do not need to mention "I" in order for knowledge, beliefs and/or actions to be imputed to you unless you make it abundantly clear what you are talking about and why you are talking about something like selling and seemingly overly focused on short-term BTC price actions.. especially given that you have ONLY been registered on the forum for a bit over a year. Are we supposed to presume that you been buying bitcoin and you have been involved in bitcoin longer than your forum registration date, unless you make that clear to us. Personally, I am going to presume that you are a relative newbie if you are presenting bitcoin-related ideas like a relative newbie and you make ambiguous statements that seem to express some kind of value in trading (or selling) bitcoin upon some kind of a supposedly meaningful pump.

Now, if you had been here more than a whole cycle and even a couple of cycles, I may well have presumed that you had already accumulated decent amounts of BTC.. and yeah, I should not really need to be presuming much at all if you just try to speak a wee bit more clearly.. and also I don't really give too many shits about your personal specifics.. even though surely some of us outline some aspects of our personal specifics in order that other members (including in this thread) get some ideas in regards to our ways of thinking about bitcoin and maybe presume our level of bitcoin holdings, whether it is 0.21BTC or more than 0.63 BTC that I proclaim to have or whatever... to give some ideas regarding where a person might consider himself to be in the BTC accumulation journey.. and surely again, I am not going to just outright presume someone like you who is talking in ambiguities and who has ONLY been registered on the forum for a wee bit Moar than a year has figured out how to accumulate BTC and to get to a level that is meaningful prior to believing that accumulation comes through selling.. which surely is a kind of trader mentality.. which you surely have not been removing me from considering that many of my presumptions about you were in the ballpark of correct... so what are we arguing about? You seem to be using trading language and incorporating ideas of trading or value to take advantage of pumps, even prior to clearly establishing that you have accumulated enough bitcoin or more than enough.. which also sounds like a trader's approach to bitcoin... which may well end up devolving into gambling when you end up playing the waves incorrectly, which I have already predicted that you are likely putting yourself into such a position.. whether you recognize it or not and whether you believe that you are talking about others or not... many of us longer term holders hardly give too many shits about some of these short term price dynamics, even though several of us will still sometimes still express frustration and impatience in regards to consolidations that frequently seem to take a long time to play out..

Quote from: Ambatman on Today at 05:16:02 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 29, 2024, 11:59:19 PM

am not sure if the solution is to hold money that you need in bitcoin, maybe you might have to have some stable coin in the mix if you lack confidence in your own currency holding value

I do hold in Fiat too but most time needs arises for me to add more to my holdings and savings when I feel my the need to increase my bag
When there's like an extra cash in hand.

I already said that your categories are confusing and does not take away from the impression that you are trading and gambling even if you call it holding and savings that comes prior to your selling on what you perceive to be an appropriate and meaningful rip.

Quote from: Ambatman on Today at 05:16:02 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 29, 2024, 11:59:19 PM

Whatever.
you talk quite a bit like a trader, so maybe I could be wrong, yet I doubt that you have gotten over your trading mindset when it comes to dee cornz

Hmm I really can't tell how that came about
Either my message is badly sent across by me or the other way round.

Why does it matter? We are repeating ourselves at this point.

Quote from: Ambatman on Today at 05:16:02 AM

I quite see Bitcoin like land from my country as a case study
Those who really gained and made life changing profits were those that held more than a decade.

Well in all it doesn't really matter much how others see it
I'm holding not just because as an investment
It helps my mood in raining or sad days that everything will be better.

Well, yeah, it takes a while to build or to hold through in order to see your BTC portfolio grow, and I doubt that bitcoiners needed 10 years in order to accomplish such. There is quite a bit of variance based on where the person was at when starting into bitcoin, and surely newbie investors are going to take longer than someone who had already been investing prior to getting into bitcoin, so the one with longer investing experience might have more capital to bring into bitcoin, so it may well not take as long as the newbie investor who might be DCA investing $10 to $100 per week or some other fairly modest amount.. and so in some sense there may well be some advantages towards having some capital as a head start when first getting into bitcoin.