Quote from: BADecker on August 15, 2024, 11:26:25 PM

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Quote from: BADecker on August 15, 2024, 07:49:06 PM

Quote from: shtangencirkool on August 15, 2024, 04:59:04 PM

Ukrainian special operation forces has captured and cleared from Russians the fortified tactical locality in underground of Kursk region : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoencKxFO7M&t=82s

Excursion after clearing : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xUCt9Qf3X4&t=6s

This isn't really Ukraine. Rather, it's the US... tempting Russia to use nukes. In addition:

Russia Ready To Execute Nuclear Attacks On NATO Targets, According To Leaked Documents - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-ready-execute-nuclear-attacks-nato-targets-according-leaked-documents

NATO Goes To War INSIDE Russia?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzP_MSzfEU0
That they happened to take advantage of weak points in Russian defenses without NATO intel support? NATO weapons - including German tanks - are killing Russians inside Russia. Red line? Also today, the "green" movement is killing beautiful beaches as the fake EV market collapses...
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I'd be highly surprised if the thought of tactical nukes even crossed Putin's mind over the hail-Mary Kursk thing which has no very conceivably durable outcome for UA/NATO. But it's possible that I am over-estimating him, or that he is neo-con-ish enough to have convinced himself that introducing tactical nukes will of lasting positive benefit for Russia. I don't see the man as being that much of a risk-taker, nor needing to take such risks as Russia is destined to come out of this thing in much better shape than they probably dreamed possible without resorting to anything very risky. Doing so only introduces the possibility of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory from the Russian perspective.

The media seems to say that Putin talks nukes now and again. Perhaps he isn't serious at all. But he is thinking every direction.

I would agree. So far the game Ukraine has been playing hasn't become serious. Oh sure. It's serious for dying troops. But it isn't an effective strategy for Ukraine to use to win any war... especially with how depleted their military has become in almost every way.

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Putin has of course considered all course of action including tactical nukes and even strategical nukes. However, you only scalate if scalation works in your favour. For example, you could consider Ukraine escalating by tanking large chunks in Kurstk and now Belgorod (I do not really think it is, war is war). They did it because there is a benefit to them in escalating.

There is little to no benefit for Putin to use any kind of nuke, else he would have already. The issue is that you can possibly kill 20.000 people bombing conventionally, but if you kill even half of that with a nuke the international backlash and possibly the direct intervention of the US will not be to your favour.

Deterrence 101.