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........ On kind of a related side note (and yeah it is a bit crass, too), I was wondering what you were going to do with the BTC that you had said that you were going to set aside (was it like 0.001 BTC or something?) to pay to me and/or fillippone in the event of my death prior to you that was meant to be paid in the event that you were to live to some year in the future (I cannot recall the exact details), but it seems a bit problematic to save that BTC if currently you are potentially having issues that are putting your longevity into question.

here it is
https://btc5.trezor.io/address/3Mw9mvjTjWtpxhmctdLa5Awj5gGUbSChKV
the deal was 0.0105 when I turn 105 to you and if you are dead to fillipone if I do not make 105 it does not transfer over so that would be 2062.

I will let it sit for now as I don't need to spend it.

That is something to keep track of, and surely, my odds of being alive are probably similar to yours, and maybe as of right now, fillippone has a bit better odds, but that timeline is still quite a ways off.

Filippone also has a BTC price-dependent gift coming from proudhon at some point... I cannot recall the exact price threshold, perhaps $100k or maybe north of $100k, which seems an inevitable triggering of that kind of an event, just a matter of time since I believe that it ONLY had a price-dependent variable without any time-dependent component.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on Today at 10:45:08 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 05:12:58 AM

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here it is https://btc5.trezor.io/address/3Mw9mvjTjWtpxhmctdLa5Awj5gGUbSChKV
the deal was 0.0105 when I turn 105 to you and if you are dead to fillipone if I do not make 105 it does not transfer over so that would be 2062.

I will let it sit for now as I don't need to spend it.

Thanks,
I am a little bit embarrassed about this, but I don’t remember giving you an address to receive those precious sats.
Is it a time locked transaction or is it going to be a manual operation.

Not that I am concerned about your reputation or willingness to honour the bet, just as for information.

The bet I am closely monitoring is the @proudhon one.

It seems to me that your use of the word bet in either of the situations is not correct.

To me it seems that each of the situations seem to be promises of gifts.

Regarding the Philip situation, neither of us gave any BTC address to Philip.. .. especially since it seems like a long-shot anyhow since he would have to be alive in 2062.. presumptively on his birthday when he turns 105 for the gift to be trigger..... so it is not a bet about whether he will turn 105, but a gift on the condition that he turns 105 that he would send such a gift.. and I just designated you to be my beneficiary..

Regarding the proudhon situation it seems the same.. yeah, sure proudhon was speculating that he did not consider that the BTC price would be going to whatever was the threshold, yet he was saying that he would give you the gift if the BTC price reached such threshold. A bet would mean that you would be offering something on the other side of the bet, which was not the case.. not that I am a bet expert.. but surely sounds like a gift to this here cat and not much different from the philip offering of a gift... Sure some folks might be more credible than others in terms of paying their promises, whether promise of gift or otherwise, and from my own point of view, surely a break of a promise, even if it were not a gift may well be deserving of a mark against credibility, whether red trust or other kinds of complaining about such refusal to follow through with the terms of the promise.

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Quote from: fillippone on Today at 10:58:25 AM

Not that I am concerned about your reputation or willingness to honour the bet, just as for information.

The bet I am closely monitoring is the @proudhon one.

meh that pessimist? proudhon holds like zero btc.

right?

Pretty much accurate.
Yeah, Proudhon is actually naysayer since inception.
Probably zero sats held.
Yes.

I think that he had paid previous promises of gifts... but maybe I am not remembering correctly. Of course, proudhon also has a long history on the forum including claims of having had owned thousands of BTC.. but that was in earlier times when they weren't worth nearly as much as they are worth these days.

Quote from: philipma1957 on Today at 03:40:09 PM

buddy is sinking. a little lower and I can buy back the hyundai corn .

Not so easy to be selling cornz buying various other things with it and then expecting to buy back anywhere near the same quantity of cornz that had been sold, even if you did not spend all of the money.

Protip: If you sell some or all of your cornz and then you use the proceeds from such corn sale to buy another thing(s), then you no longer have such money to buy bitcoin with it.

If you have multiple stacks of coins and one is hodl and one is flex if you sell off some flex at 64k to 65k

for a car it does not mean you don’t have cash.

I have buys set at
53k
49k
43k.

If we tumble to those numbers I would take back the corn.

As I have said I am not rich , but I am not poor.

Now that I have a health concern that would mean 72 is a very likely timeline .

Holding btc is meh I will spend the flex on and off. I spent some corn because hodling for ten years means I am 77 which is five years past a time line end likelihood.