Quote from: Zaguru12 on Today at 11:21:14 PM

Quote from: mv1986 on Today at 09:56:02 PM

I bet that if you were the Bayern Munich coach, they still would have won 3-2 against Wolfsburg and 2-0 against Freiburg at home. It is the quality of the players in those games, not the coach. The coach comes into play when the team plays brutally dominant and you can literally see that the coach is transforming them into a monster. As I said before, Guardiola did that when Bayern couldn't be beaten in the Bundesliga and Heynckes did that. It was insane how the team played back then.

Take Liverpool as an example. Klopp needed a few years, but then the team was turned from a Volkswagen into a Ferrari. Same guys, but trained by Klopp. Bayern has achieved nothing. They won at home against Freiburg and you are talking as if they have just hammered Real Madrid, lol.

So it simply meant that any coach who was in the dugout today would have won the Match? I disagree with this assessment, last season Tuchel was on the touch line and Bayern Munich weren’t even playing a this football you. Called Shitty, they were apparently losing matches against clubs that they should have win Now Kompany took over from a disorganized and unstable team and now they have started to win even if it’s scrappy wins and also shown improvement in the playing style and you still can’t give him credit. Mind you he took over not from pep or even Hansi flick to say he took a winning club. His story is just similar to that of Klopp you mentioned at Liverpool and Klopp also didn’t get his team perfect until his Third season yet he was acknowledged before then. So Kompany deserves his flowers now even if it is too early we can withdraw it back if they don’t get better

And are you saying that the Champions League winning coach Tuchel is only to blame?

My point mostly is that after two games against Wolfsburg and Freiburg you already figured out that Bayern Munich was widely underestimated? I mean what do you think people expected when they said that Company is a risky experiment? That they are going to lose the first two games in the Bundesliga? Of course not. But when you play for Bayern Munich or when you are the Bayern Munich coach, winning has priority of course, but the "how" is definitely important too. Let me remind you that they have had two years now with big trouble using their ball possession and chances to score goals. It was a huge issue. They dominated the game, but they couldn't seal the deal. I don't see them as an improved team yet and I have no idea after two games whether Kompany is the right man or not. But I can tell you that there is yet no difference, which is ok after two games. For you Bayern was so overwhelmingly dominating the games that you sat there nodding "oh man Bayern was underestimated". Cheesy